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  1. Glad to see such items are still available to collectors. Would assume your piece is a collar device. The cap emblem has a post and screw back. Scroll down to bottom of page three in this catagory and you will find a bigger listing of Jewish War Veterans insignia.
  2. Fred, An excellent photo. The four stars on white enamel indicate a present National Commander. Assume this photo is sent to all Garrisons to be hung on the wall . The only references I have seen for the Skull Badge have listed it as a membership badge/award for the Order of the Skeletons, Order of the Skull and Bones and Order of the Firing Squad. Not sure which name is accurate. The group is the honor society of the Army Navy Union similiar to the Cooties, 40/8, Trench Rats, etc. Believe the A&NU is currently reviving the society. There is a reference to the badge in the Journal of the Orders and Medals Society for November-Decenber 1999, Vol 50, Number 6. It illustrates a similar badge with a star burst (sun burst) between the cross arms.
  3. Kevin, Was reviewing older postings when I found this one. Recently got an item that may explain this badge. Figure 1 shows a similar badge with a top bar impressed with the word FELDWEBEL; a German word that roughly means Field Sergeant. As a consequence, if we think of DMV as German letters, we have DEUTSCHE MILITAR VEREIN (German Military Association/Society/Organization). Such groups were more common in American from the Civil War to WWI. The flag in the center of the badge appears to have three horizontal bars like the German national flag. The crossed swords in American means Cavalry, while in Germany, I think, it means Army the same way an anchor means Navy. The back of the badge is plain, but has a mfg mark of C. G. BRAKMAR CO--10 MAIDEN LANE--NEW YORK. The existance of a cap badge with a Company 'A' letter implies a group with uniforms. Figure 2 is a photo of a German military society formed in Richmond, Indiana in 1907 which illustrates the use of the letters DMV on the iron cross symbol in center of the group and what appears to be a three bar flag behind the group. Not readable on the lower arm of the iron cross is printed GEG. (organized) 15 DEC 07 RICHMOND, IND. While most of the members are wearing some form of a lapel pin, many have what appears to be a Franco-Prussian War medal. This medal may explain the appearent age of the group membership. One member, in the first seated line behind and just right of the iron cross, has several medals; their shape implies service in the 1864 war with Denmark and/or 1866 war with Austria. I can only assume such groups disappeared during the anti-German hysteria of WWI. Do not know if such groups were more veteran society in structure (usually denoted by the word KRIEGER in their title), a local home guard type of unit, or just a parade society.
  4. Holzi, Sorry for the delay, December has been a busy month for me. Wish I could give you a definite answer about the hat, but I have seen too many variations in hats that do not fit a standard pattern. As a general rule, the official hat supplied by the American Legion does not vary from official patters and colors. A white trim w'red and blue flakes is not part of the official pattern. Believe the Sons hat has a similar trim, but their hat is French blue. Sometimes a veteran who is cautious with his money may modify another hat. I have a Legion hat with an Italian-American veteran society patch neatly sewn over the Legion logo with only the gold rays visible beyond the edge of the new insignia. Most Legion hats I have seen also have the Legion logo embroidered directly into the hat. Believe their earliest hats had a patch sewn on the side, but cannot confirm this variation. From my batch of old Legion catalogs, I have learned that in the 1920s and 1930s the Legion only supplied the membership hat--not the uniform jacket and trousers. These items had to be purchased from uniform suppliers. Uniforms were a popular item at that time and worn by milkmen, hotel clerks, gas station attendants, delivery men, etc. Such companies also supplied uniforms to veteran societies following some official pattern. However, veteran groups that had a band or marching unit often wanted a distinctive uniform. And this desire created many variations in hats and jackets worn by veterans. This could be one source of your hat. Another possibility stems from the many uniformed civilian groups during World War II. Blue and brown (or tan) seemed the most popular colors. Your hat may be a modification of one of these hats after the war. A simple explanation would be that someone changed the trim edge, but this is a difficuly taks requiring soneone with great sewing skill even with a sewing machine. It you get the chance, please post a picture of you hat. I would like to see it. Francis R Frederick
  5. Khistorian01, Thank you for the gold mine posting. Have also had a set of this society wings but never knew of it was a civilian group or a veteran group. It you have the time, could you post the remainder of the newsletter.
  6. Kevin, Bishop and Elliott list the WRC having a membership in 1896 of over 138,000. But at the time of their book publication, the membership was 12,000. I have the WRC 1926 Convention publication and the National Secretary reports the membership at over 189,000 that year. It appears that in the WRC Constitution and By-Laws, a member had to be wearing their membership badge during a meeting to vote on issues at that meeting. This would help explain the vast number of badges available in the marketplace if all members posessed a membership badge. This is just my opinion on things, but where most men's groups design office titles around function and exclusivity, women's groups are functional and social. The many officer titles in some women's groups fill this social aspect.
  7. Kevin, Think the Blue, Red, and Gold (Yellow or Buff) color system in the WRC, as well as all the GAR attached groups (SUVCW, DUVCW, LGAR and SUV Aux), follow the GAR system to indicate level in which office was held. Have seen and have in my groupings examples of the older, bronze officer title badges with all three ribbons. Past office holders wore a shield with initials FCL pendent from the top bar. As a result, all offices held in the local unit, state/dept. and national office could be indicated with an identical top bar, appropriate color ribbon, and common pendant. A very economical system. Believe your unique badge, probably adopted in the 1910s or 1920s, is specific to Presidents only. Do not know of any other officer titles in this style badge. Consequently, I think the original owner of this badge was saying she was a local unit president and then held office at the state/dept. level, but was not the president at that level. She held and completed a lesser office and notes it with the red ribbon and red shield.
  8. Figure 2 shows three officer badge pendants. All are unmarked and have a silver finish. George Kane's book on this society notes the badges are commonly bronze. The two pendants on the left are thicker and have softer detail than the thin, sharp feature badge on the right. Difficult to see on the reverse of the left two badges is the faint appearance of bronze beneath the silver wash caused by wear to the service. Figure 1 and Figure 2 also demonstrate the relative frequency of complete officer badges and plain pendents it has been my experience to see at military shows. Examples of UVL convention badges illustrated in Kane's book most often have the society badge/emblem on them. Early convention badges have the first two shield edge inscriptions. It looks as though the star edge shield does not appear until about 1895-96. From then up to 1925, the convention badges vary in use between the three shield versions.
  9. Kevin, et. al., The posting of two badges from the Union Veteran Legion causes me to believe there may be three version of their officer badges. The exceptional presentation badge of SCF Collector illustrates a badge with the center shield containing the words THREE YEARS WE HAVE SERVED (or WE HAVE SERVED THREE YEARS). This style badge is shown in Robert B. Beath's 1888 book on the history of the GAR. Kevin's badge has the words THREE YEAR VOLUNTEERS. Although I have known of these other versions, I have yet to add one to my collection. All of my officer badges have STARS surrounding the shield as shown on the lapel pins and in Figure 1. This badge is the local unit Commander with a thin, silk like red ribbon. What few examples of this badge I have seen also had a similar ribbon--not the heavily ribbed grosgrain ribbon more commonly used. This badge is also the only one I have with a mfg. mark. This mark may be the result of its silver content; a requirement by the US gov't in the 1890s I believe.
  10. Lapel Pins: These are the only lapel pins I know of for this group. It seems logical that there may be versions of the earlier badges in lapel size, but I have not seen any as of this date.
  11. UVU Women's Auxiliary: I know even less about this group. Think the initials on the badge mean Women's Volunter (or Veteran) Reserve Unit. The back of the badge is plain, but does show the suspension ring as an integral part of the badge. Not visible in the photo is a spot on the center of the lower edge of the top bar. A ring was attached here. It is believed it held devices to indicate office in the unit such as a mallet for president, quill and pen for secretary, etc.
  12. Photo four illustrates the slightly more common Type 3 badge. It uses much of the symbolism of the Type 2 badge, but in a lighter metal spamping and conversion to the more popular design (in later years) where the focus piece of the badge is pendent to the ribbon. The badge on the right is a much cruder cast piece. I have seen this cast badge almost as often as the thin, stamped version. I assume it represents the final years of the organization when this badge was the best they could afford. The ribbon on the cast badge is much wider that the stamped badge ribbon and shows evidence of very acidic color dies. This cast badge is know to exist with better ribbons either by the manufacture or replacement by the veteran.
  13. Photo three illustrates two additional versions of the UVU badge. The officer's badge on the right was acquired in the early 1970s and I thought it was only an officer's badge version until the badge on the left appeared several years ago on ebay. Its plain lettered top bar causes me to believe this may be a second version of the UVU membership badge. Certainly it is not as costly as the first version and is well made with heavy stamped pieces. It seems I read or heard somewhere that the UVU had local groups and a national body, but no intermediate groups such as States or Departments. I have only seen one other officer badge and it too had yellow enamel. While this style badge is not rare, it is not common either; and I do not see enough of these badges to know how they fit into the UVU history.
  14. Photo two is probably as close as I will ever get to own a Type 1 badge. It is printed on a ribbon about the size of a U.S. Dollar bill.
  15. Gentlemen, The Union Veterans Union is one of those elusive Civil War groups that is difficult to find organization information and badge information. Here is what little I have learned. The first photo is from Roger Heiple's The Great Republic; a privately published newsletter from 1980 to about 1986. From previous correspondence with him, he allows reprinting of anything from his newsletter if credit is given. This document is quite valuable to military veteran badge collectors since it comes from A. Demarest and completely explains the first version of the UVU badge--including the fact it comes on five different ribbons. (Roger Heiple is an extraordinary Civil War researcher and historian, His early newsletter helped lead to the formation of The Civil War Veterans Historical Association which currently plublishes a newsletter four times a year on Civil War badges and collectables. They have a website.)
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