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Taber10

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  1. That looks like an O-2 or civilian Cessna Skymaster. Your identification of the A-10 is correct, but given the other "FAC" aircraft, I'm guessing it was actually an "OA-10" if the party suit fits the timeframe for that airframe/MDS.
  2. Khakiweb, the original M1917 "Belt Box" or Cal.30 Ammo Chest did NOT have any markings similar to the more recent metal "cans" which primarily came from the depot prepacked with ammunition. The only markings were the Stencils of three cartridges on the inside bottom of the box, and in a very few cases, an identifying mark for the manufacturer. In the '30s--approximately 1936, the M1917 box was remanufactured, and the outside front of the box was marked "CHEST 49-1-84" which was the drawing number, and the stencil on the inside bottom of the box was changed to three arrows. Since these boxes were issued with the MG to the unit, and intended to be refilled as required, there was no point in identifying any type of round, belt mix, etc. The ammo was shipped in the M1917 AMMO CHEST, the large (1500 rounds of Cal .30 or 350 rounds of Cal .50) which WERE stencilled/marked with the exact contents. The unit then belted the ammo and inserted it into the MG "belt box" for use. Hope this helps.... Taber
  3. I also have no clue. But your A-7 speculation could be possible if the Navy's A-7 could hang three weapons on each side--I can't remember how many pylons were on the Navy version. Our Air Force A-7s were NOT nuclear certified during my time with them. But the panel is definitely for six "gravity" weapons. It is to set whether the weapons are released "Free-Fall" or "Retarded" i.e. is the parachute set for deployment or not.
  4. I'm by no means an expert here, because I have ammo boxes--wood and metal--that appear to be in good, unrestored, condition but with a variety of shades of OD. I think that the manufacturers had some leeway in what shade was used, and of course, some wartime constraints in what was available at the time. HOWEVER, I'm posting to say that I've had great luck with the Rapco Parts series of OD paints. They offer Early WWII, Late WWII and Lusterless "Khaki" OD that I have used with very good results. The phone number is 940 872-2403, but their website is informative.
  5. Dustin's post is very informative, and I agree with nearly all of it, but I'd like to add some more modern history: In the '70s, all of the fighter bases that I was stationed at had what was called a Runway Supervisory Unit or RSU. There was an "additional duty" roster of officers required to man the RSU during the entire flying schedule, i.e. any time aircraft were up. The duties, as I can remember them, were to ensure that the runway was clear prior to any landing, and to watch for any approach that didn't appear right, specifically if the pilot had not lowered the landing gear. Unfortunately, while very rare, "gear up" landings did occur. IF the RSU officer saw a problem, he had immediate access to the flare pistol, pre-loaded and pointing up through the mounting in the side of the RSU, which was a metal and glass structure, usually NOT a permanent facility. Given the "peacetime" scenario, the rules for inserting the pistol into the mount before loading the pistol were fairly clear and rigidly followed. The point is, both the pistol and the mount were used for many years after WWII.
  6. Inside dimensions are 3 1/4" wide by 13 3/8" long by 7 1/4" high. I can find no markings anywhere, except for the "empty" on both sides.
  7. I have this can that was identified as an "ammo can" but I've never seen it before. It has a handle like German cans, and a latch similar to the US .30 cal cans. The interior width is too narrow for US Cal.30 M1, and perhaps too wide for 7.62mm linked ammo. It would fit 7.9 X 57mm linked. Does anyone recognize it? Thanks in advance.
  8. Sorry you were disappointed in the PA show. I was there two years ago, and while it was small, I did add a few things. Last year I made the Ohio show, also small, but again I found a few nice items. I also only collect military small arms ammo, usually WWI and WWII. The real cartridge show is St Louis, third week of April. Much larger show with around 200 tables, a dozen displays, etc. Several tables that include ordnance type items. You are actually lucky having those opportunities--as small as they are. Since the Texas show ended many years ago, we don't have any options here in the South.
  9. My apologies for dragging up this old thread, but I have recently obtained one of the pictured Lewis MG Magazine boxes, and I would like to know if anyone has pictures showing the wooden spacers that go into the box below and above the magazines. It is a case of the "round peg in the square hole" putting the six round magazines in a rectangular box, solved by some spacers, which have been removed from my box, leaving only the screw holes in the box bottom and top. If anyone has pictures, measurements, info, etc. I would love to restore these spacers to my Lewis Magazine box. Thanks in advance, Taber
  10. IF you decide to sell, you might want to consider listing on the International Ammunition Association's "Collectorcartridge" site, as there seem to be more ammo collectors there, and you might get a better price.
  11. I'd guess earlier than '60s. The use of the AIC died out in the mid-1950s, I think actually 1954. I have seen it on packaging manufactured up until 1958, but it had actually been replaced before that. Of course, you can find the AIC still stenciled on boxes, crates, etc. where the ammunition contained had not been consumed. Sometimes, the newer nomenclature such as a DODIC, DODAC or an FSN has been added to the markings on packaging, either with- or without the AIC being painted over or obliterated. Hope this helps....
  12. Yes, definitely ammo. The Ammunition Identification Code (AIC) R4CLA was linked to some version of the 60mm Mortar round.
  13. Wow, no clue what it is, but THANKS for posting! Do you have any measurements, even a "close guess" as to what size round would fit?
  14. Looks like the M5 Metal Can, commonly called "SPAM" can. Lots of .45 was packed this way, but I doubt much of it had the travel history that this can seems to have. Only the "Can, Hermetically Sealing Metal Light Gage Tear-Strip Type" is officially called an "ammo can" although the term is often used for any metal ammo box or container.
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