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    20th Century militaria mainly the Vietnam to Grenada period, 50s-70s music, vinyl records and 8-Tracks, my 1977 Camaro Type LT
  1. I've used a soap Brillo pad on my metal canteens and stainless mess kits in the past. Make sure you do it under running water. Didn't really brighten or dull the finish and left no scratches that I could see.
  2. I believe the first year of production for the removable suspension type liner was 1973. From my limited research, I personally haven't seen any removable suspension liners in use in Vietnam, but I suppose it is possible LATE in the war. Especially with the troops sent to evacuate the embassy. Check out this shell I found on eBay with a 1973 dated removable suspension liner: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VIETNAM-ERA-GROUND-TROOP-HELMET-M1-W-LINER-TYPE-1-WOODLAND-COVER-1973/322938212975?hash=item4b309e126f:g:bGAAAOSwIFtaMWq1
  3. Tag Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Vietnam-War-US-Paratrooper-Rip-Stop-Poplin-Jungle-Jacket-X-Large-Regular/253342954325?hash=item3afc6ab355:g:u1gAAOSwPpZaTDSx
  4. Here's one that has me stumped. A 1970 Jungle Fatigue Jacket, sized X-Large Regular, that uses DLA instead of DSA, on the tag. Even more odd, is the fact that it isn't ripstop. Weird, huh? Anyone know the story behind this one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Vietnam-War-US-Paratrooper-Rip-Stop-Poplin-Jungle-Jacket-X-Large-Regular/253342954325?hash=item3afc6ab355:g:u1gAAOSwPpZaTDSx
  5. I've always said it PASGAT, adding the A between the G and T. Don't know why, just what I've always heard it called.
  6. I have done a bit of research on Woodland BDU jackets and, from my limited research, everything stated above is correct. To elaborate a little further: -Temperate BDUs were the ONLY BDUs made from 1981-1984. They were not fun in high temperatures, and were destined to, not necessarily be replaced, but be improved upon. - FY1981 manufactured BDU jackets are commonly assumed to be the only white label BDU jackets made, however a select few FY1982 manufactured jackets also received white labels as well. Also to note is the color on early BDUs. From what I gather, after hard use, the black on SOME 1981 produced jackets turn somewhat of a DARK purple. Many of these "first issue" jackets ended up in Marines stocks, so it is not rare to find them marked with the USMC EG&A on the pocket. - There are a few different GENERAL patterns that BDUs of any type usually follow. The first (1981-1984) is mainly differentiated from the rest by it's large "Elvis" collar and top pockets being sewn down on their outside edges. The second (1984-1992) introduced the smaller collar, adjustment tabs on the waist, as well as the top pockets now being sewn down on their inside edge. The third (1993-END), and final, is largely the same as the third, with the exception of a somewhat slimmer profile and the removal of the waist adjustment tabs. There are many instances of overlapping patterns and types of BDU. - Temperate BDU's were produced throughout the entire time the military used the BDU, in a 50/50 NYCO blend. Due to this, temperate jackets can be found in every "pattern" that was made for BDU's. - The Hot Weather BDU started manufacture in FY 1985, and used a 100% Cotton Ripstop construction. The 100% Cotton did not hold up well to starching and turned white after hard use. They were only manufactured until FY 1993. - Starting in FY1994, the Enhanced Hot Weather BDU started to be produced with a 50/50 NYCO Ripstop construction. This proved much better that the 100% cotton HWBDUs. This is just from the research I have done and I may be reinventing the wheel. Most of the jackets I used were ones I found on eBay that I myself could discern the info I needed from. Never used what was in the description. I do have links to each one, although they may have expired. It is a somewhat confusing and hard to explain topic. A diagram would probably help the explanation a lot. It anyone has any jackets they would like to relay info to me from, please drop me a PM. The info can only help us further understand BDUs.
  7. Also, one other thing I noticed was that the straps are very hard to stretch and hook around the back of the shell. It can be done, but the straps are extra taught and it really doesn't look right. Anyone else run into this with green hardware straps?
  8. Inside I can get more pics if needed.
  9. Saw this helmet on eBay, while looking for a good candidate to make a Vietnam era marine example. The title of the listing said WW2/Korea helmet with a CAPAC liner. From the pics I could tell that the Shell had the Green metal hardware, indicative of Korean era production, although they were not crimped which I figured could've been either a production mistake or a field repair mistake. I could also tell that the shell had quite a few layers of paint, but the top coat was similar to a late 50's-early 60s repaint (Not as dark as a Korean era repaint, but not a bright as a Vietnam era repaint), but you could see the cork texture on the shell. The liner was easy to deduce was Korean era made due to the Marmac sticker in the shell and, from what was left in it, looked to be a nice early 60's set up. So I bought it. Fast forward to yesterday, when it arrived. The liner is exactly what I thought it was, a 1952 Marmac liner with a CAPAC and Westinghouse double stamp in the crown, 1961 headband, remnants of leather chinstrap. Good to go! The shell, I'm a bit confused on. It is a RS SB low dome shell. The chinstraps, as I saw, are uncrimped and have the green hardware. I cannot however find a heatstamp. It is possible that it is hidden under many layers of paint, but you'd think that at least a part of it would pop out. I know where a WW2 produced McCord and Schleuter (May have butchered that) should have their heatstamp, but where will a 50's produced shell have it's heatstamp. Are non crimped chinstraps common with M1 shells? Just hope I don't have a well used and repainted foreign shell that someone put Korean straps on. You can see the liner in the background of the above pic. Didn't feel the need to photo it because I'm mainly concerned with the shell. More pics to follow.
  10. Honestly, I don't consider much made after 1973 to be Vietnam era unless it has to do with ARVN or some of the remaining advisors after we pulled most of our forces out. Technically Vietnam era ends May of '75, but the chances of finding something used by a US troop in Vietnam dated after '73 (Probably more like '72) is rare. Just my 2 cents.
  11. VERY nice helmet! Centerpiece of any VN helmet collection.
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