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Kaigun Shosa

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  1. To All, I just wanted to reiterate the purpose of this post is to pass along some good information to fellow collectors on an alternative way of cleaning bullion. Also note, this was meant for those that want to restore the luster of bullion. For those that want to preserve the patina and tone of your bullion collection, just ignore this thread. Again, it's simply here as an alternative way of cleaning bullion. The best thing about the forum is the participation and encouragement of members to provide information and to encourage alternate views of discussion, however, I do take umbrage to those that want to inject false narratives, speculation and conjecture within a discussion merely to throw negativity to a helpful solution. To clear up some facts. I stated the use of "Cream of Tartar" not the use of pure Tartaric Acid. There is a difference. Tartaric acid had a concentrated pH of around 3.5, HOWEVER, "Cream of tartar" has a concentration of around 5 pH. This is the fact that "Cream of Tartar" also has potassium hydroxide or what is commonly called bicarbonate which reduced the acidity of the compound. When combined with water to form a paste, the acidity is significantly reduced. Also, in one of the last steps I mentioned cleaning using running water and a "soft" bristle brush, this is to reduce any residual that may be on the bullion. Any buildup of tartaric acid from the "Cream of Tartar" will be extremely miniscule. We are talking on the microscale here. The damage to your bullion and cloth will be about the same as the natural environmental factors such as air, storage conditions, the surrounding environment and handling it with your fingers. Bottom line.....this posting was only intended for those looking for an alternative means to cleaning bullion if they choose to do so.
  2. I put the patch under the flowing water and scrubbed the excess tartar off with the clean brush. Then blotted it dry with paper towels then let it air dry for a couple of days.
  3. Just did a light onceover and you can see the results. A couple more times on the star and it should pop!
  4. No vinegar No brasso No toothpaste No tarnex Just simple Cream of Tartar that you can find at your local grocery store. by the way, use the second "clean" tooth brush to gently brush the bullion after you have cleaned it blotted it dry to get some of the residual tartar crystals and powder off the insignia.
  5. Very easy and natural. Here's what you need: 2 soft bristle tooth brushes Cream of tartar (large container) 1. Dry brush the bullion and try to clean any dust, dirt or debris off the item before you try and clean it. 2. Get the tooth brush wet and then sprinkle the cream of tartar on the item to be cleaned. You want to gently scrub with the tooth brush until you create a paste with the cream of tartar and the water. 3. Keep adding equal amounts of water and the tartar and keep scrubbing in either a circular motion or with the grain of the bullion. Don't scrub too hard. remember the bullion thread is delicate. Go through it patiently and take your time. 4. Rinse the tartar off the bullion to evaluate your work. Repeat the process as needed. 5. When you get the desired luster or brilliance back, rinse the bullion to get as much of the tartar off. When you are done rinsing then blot to bullion with a paper towel until you soak up the excess water and let it air dry. Do not blow dry it, dry in the direct sun. In a day or two the insidnia will be dry and you will have brought back the original luster in your insignia. Caveat! This will not work on all bullion insignia! Do your research, some bullion thread was electroplated silver on brass or copper, if the oxidation is too far gone, you may not want to use this method since the silver may have already oxidized off the insignia. Try this method on a test piece first till you get the hang of the process then move your way up to a piece that you would like to clean. A good way to determine if you are willing to try this method is to look at the bullion thread with a 10x jeweler's loop. you may be able to see if the thread has any copper or brass in it. If it does, it may not shine up as you may think. Good luck and I hope this method works for you! If you have any questions feel free to PM me. Jim
  6. 1930's Crow. Before and after. This was just a light cleaning. I did a light cleaning on the verdigris and was able to get some out.
  7. Well....I think I finally found a natural method to clean bullion embroidery without toxic chemicals and also without destroying either the bullion or cloth itself. I know that some collectors are very particular when it comes to preservation and also in the mind set of "just leave it alone" or that the patina looks good as is... But for those that want to restore the original luster of that silver or gold bullion, well, I want to share the method I tried out. First, I want to show you some before and after photos just to get your judgement... Here is a 1920's US Navy Officers Cap badge. Before cleaning.
  8. Our government has awarded US medals to Foreigners for Valor in a majority of Wars we fought in with allied countries. Here is a list from Wikipedia of Foreigners that have won US valor awards: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-U.S._recipients_of_U.S._gallantry_awards Example, Keith Payne (Awarded the Victoria Cross in Vietnam) was also awarded the US Army Distinguished Service Cross and the Silver Star. Here's link to a photo of his medals: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-16/keith-payne-medals/9155076 You can see the DSC and the Silver Star on his very impressive rack! Also, another example, Trần Văn Bảy, a soldier of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam was awarded the US Navy cross: Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%E1%BA%A7n_V%C4%83n_B%E1%BA%A3y
  9. We're talking Navy Medicine here, I wouldn't be surprised one bit....haha! However, no CO in their right mind would sign off on this. If they did, their leadership would be in serious question. Even with the redacted photo, I'm assuming it reads "Branch" Health Clinic, well the last time I checked, we don't have any BHC's in combat zones, or if it was "earned" in a combat zone, mention of the unit of said action would be noted. We have the Role III multinational medical unit in Kandahar and any medical unit embedded with the Marines would be known as a Medical battalion. So this is totally bogus. Some PN probably got a blank form and typed up this as a joke and gave it to someone.
  10. Never made it to the transmission station, however, I did spent some time stationed at the Naval base there in Sasebo. It is one of the few naval bases that still have and use buildings from the old Meiji period Imperial Japanese Navy. So if you ever get a chance to visit the Naval base, you can still see the original buildings and dry-docks that are over 100 years old. Jim
  11. Thought I would share this. I know and have seen instances of where some collectors have Navy good conduct medals to several sailors to the same ship, however, what are the chances of having two Navy good conduct medals named to two different sailors to the same ship within a day apart from each other! So when I saw the Davis medal show up on the bay, I had to get it.
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