316th FS 324th FG
Oct 22 2009, 10:31 AM
Picked this up today.
I havent taken it out of the frame yet, but it appears to be a decal on leather. With a cut edge Airborne tag and a camo backing.
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 22 2009, 10:33 AM
Back of the frame had this written in pen (ball point, but an older style of writing):
Troop Carrier Emblem
Knob Noster AFB near Sedalia MO also
Laurenburg Maxton AFB NC
Material is scrap from parachute used in Normandy France on D Day 1944
cutiger83
Oct 22 2009, 11:30 AM
Doug, awesome find! Congrats!...Kat
gtpcamaroz
Oct 22 2009, 11:32 AM
Awesome find, like how it is cased and the parachute material is the backdrop.
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 22 2009, 11:42 AM
Thanks guys. Just took it apart (cuz I couldn't wait till I got home!)
No markings on the back of the patch, which is fairly thin and softer than I expected. The decal is definitely fragile. It has not been sewn on anything.
The back of the airborne tab has lots of snow, but it is very dirty.
The parachute cloth is about 3 times what you can see in the frame area, including a seam. There is also one marking that appears to be an ink marking (maybe an 8 or a zero) on it, no other markings.
The only other military item she had was a white OCD helmet in good condition for $10.
cutiger83
Oct 22 2009, 11:57 AM
QUOTE(316th FS 324th FG @ Oct 22 2009, 03:42 PM)

Thanks guys. Just took it apart (cuz I couldn't wait till I got home!)
No markings on the back of the patch, which is fairly thin and softer than I expected. The decal is definitely fragile. It has not been sewn on anything.
The back of the airborne tab has lots of snow, but it is very dirty.
The parachute cloth is about 3 times what you can see in the frame area, including a seam. There is also one marking that appears to be an ink marking (maybe an 8 or a zero) on it, no other markings.
The only other military item she had was a white OCD helmet in good condition for $10.
I understand about not being able to wait until you get home!

If you get a chance, I would love to see the parachute cloth now that you have it out of the frame....Kat
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 22 2009, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(cutiger83 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:57 PM)

I understand about not being able to wait until you get home!

If you get a chance, I would love to see the parachute cloth now that you have it out of the frame....Kat
Kat
I will take it apart again this weekend and take good photos of each piece.
Lee Ragan
Oct 23 2009, 05:00 AM
Knob Noster AFB listed on the back, is now present day Whiteman AFB, home of the B-2 bomber.
dogfacedsoldier
Oct 23 2009, 08:31 AM
Hey,
Knob Noster AFB now Whiteman AFB during WWII was in the hub of an area that trained Troop Carrier crews mostly having to do with towing Gliders. Sedalia, Mo., nearby was also a glider training center. Whiteman was named after the first fighter pilot killed in WWII at Pearl Harbor.
Jon
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 23 2009, 05:49 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Knob Noster has to be one of the weirdest names I have seen
Here are some better pics.
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 23 2009, 05:49 PM
The backs
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 23 2009, 05:51 PM
The parachute
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 23 2009, 05:51 PM
The back
316th FS 324th FG
Oct 29 2009, 11:46 AM
Any comments from the patch experts? Seems legit to me but I am definitely a noob at WWII patches.
cutiger83
Nov 2 2009, 05:23 PM
Doug,
I don't know anything about the patch but the parachute piece is really great! Who used camo parachutes? Was it used by one certain branch of the military or by anyone? Thanks for taking the time to post the details. You really have a great find there!.....Kat
1st Sgt CES
Nov 2 2009, 06:27 PM
Great find ! & nice patch ! Blue Skies 1st Sgt CES
Gregory
Nov 17 2009, 11:39 PM
Hello,
Nice and rare patch. There is very hard to see somebody who wore such a patch however. Even 1st TCC CO, Brig. Gen. Frederic W. Evans, did not wear such a patch. There is interesting and well-illustrated booklet published early 1944 and dedicated to the 1st TCC. I mean "They get there First. The story of the First Troop Carrier Command U.S. Army Air Forces". Only one gliderman can be seen with such a patch.
Best regards
Greg
KurtA
Nov 18 2009, 04:44 AM
I wouldn't keep the patch in the frame if it touches the glass. Over time, the patch could stick to the glass and be ruined. Luckily it hadn't yet happened.
Great find!
Kurt
Teamski
Nov 18 2009, 05:33 AM
QUOTE(KurtA @ Nov 18 2009, 07:44 AM)

I wouldn't keep the patch in the frame if it touches the glass. Over time, the patch could stick to the glass and be ruined. Luckily it hadn't yet happened.
Great find!
Kurt
Very wise councel indeed. I have had this happen in the past to certificates I bought at flea markets. Devastating.
-Ski
AustinO
Nov 18 2009, 10:34 AM
I picked up an almost identical 1st TCC patch years ago from an estate, yours looks legit. I guess the guys just never wore them...
JDK
Nov 18 2009, 10:45 AM
Doug,
The patch is the real deal 100%. Decal squadron patches are among the most difficult to take care of. They don't like humid or over dry conditions, and will fade easily if exposed to light! The best hing to do is get it out of the frame, wrap it in acid free paper, and store it in a humidity controlled enviroment.
JD
Blake_E
Nov 19 2009, 02:02 AM
I saw this yesterday on here, but forget to post lol! Very cool, a rare patch indeed!
316th FS 324th FG
Nov 19 2009, 07:00 AM
QUOTE(JDK @ Nov 18 2009, 01:45 PM)

Doug,
The patch is the real deal 100%. Decal squadron patches are among the most difficult to take care of. They don't like humid or over dry conditions, and will fade easily if exposed to light! The best hing to do is get it out of the frame, wrap it in acid free paper, and store it in a humidity controlled enviroment.
JD
Thanks guys for all the comments. I will get it out of the frame touching the glass, had hoped to still keep it displayable though, so we will see.
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