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#261 Wailuna

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 02:47 PM

...Airman Lambeck's hat is a different style from the one seen in post #247 (above) -- although the pictures were taken right in the same period. I guess both types were in use at same time?


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You are correct that both styles were in use at the same time in the 1950s. Airman Lambeck is wearing the Service and Dress Hat, which consisted of a frame with interchangeable seasonal hat covers ( a ) a wool cover for winter wear (gray shade 167) and ( b ) a cotton corded cover for summer wear (blue, white, and black stripe shade 166). There was also an optional white cover to be worn with the WAF dress white uniform.

The second WAF is wearing the Flight Cap which came in blue only (shade 84).

This information appears in The Air Officer's Guide 5th Edition (1951) and 10th Edition (1957) and possibly in editions before and after these.


Edited by Wailuna, 16 December 2011 - 02:48 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2011 - 03:03 PM

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You are correct that both styles were in use at the same time in the 1950s. Airman Lambeck is wearing the Service and Dress Hat, which consisted of a frame with interchangeable seasonal hat covers ( a ) a wool cover for winter wear (gray shade 167) and ( b ) a cotton corded cover for summer wear (blue, white, and black stripe shade 166). There was also an optional white cover to be worn with the WAF dress white uniform.

The second WAF is wearing the Flight Cap which came in blue only (shade 84).

This information appears in The Air Officer's Guide 5th Edition (1951) and 10th Edition (1957) and possibly in editions before and after these.

@Wailuna -- Thanks for the heads-up (pun intended) on the hats.......

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 03:46 PM

This information appears in The Air Officer's Guide 5th Edition (1951) and 10th Edition (1957) and possibly in editions before and after these.

The 1957 edition includes, too, a "Flight Cap" but I have no photo of it at the moment.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 03:03 AM

The 1957 edition includes, too, a "Flight Cap" but I have no photo of it at the moment.


Photos... not mine, but in my "stash" of photos found online for reference.

The following are from Jackson Library, The University of North Carolina at Greensboro. Found here.

Portrait of Anna Kalar, circa 1952
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 07:40 PM

The "P.L.O." !


:lol: The perpetually bemused Don Knotts, CLASSIC !

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:15 PM

Here are a couple more recent acquisitions:

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This one is named to T/Sgt Grulke, he flew in the CBI in WWII and was stationed in Japan during Korea.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:28 AM

Here are a couple more recent acquisitions:

Rob



Very nice examples.......

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 06:18 PM

Just picked up one of these on eBay for only a few bucks. I know what it is. But when? Pretty early -- but how early? And how long were these issued? And what about a photo of an Airman wearing one?!

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 08:10 PM

This one was leather, from the C.E. Daniels collection:

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:08 PM

This one was leather, from the C.E. Daniels collection:


@ Bluehawk: I have never seen one of these leather face protectors before now. Thanks for posting.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:58 PM

More evidence of the Air Force's fatigue cap identity crisis late in the transitional era: A TM-61 Matador missile crew of 310th Tactical Missile Squadron at Osan Air Base, Korea, ca. 1960. (Some Air Force missile trivia: The Martin Matador started its service life as the YB-61, a "pilotless bomber" which deployed to Germany in mid-1950s as the B-61A Matador, operated by 1st Pilotless Bomber Squadron (among others) and targeting you-know-who. Once operational, the "pilotless bomber" slander was quickly scrapped in favor of "tactical missile" — perhaps Gen. Lemay was not amused by the suggestion of bombers without pilots.)

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:42 PM

I just cannot recall where on earth I got this picture file, but found it in my computer today. If I snagged it from somebody's collection, I apologize, and will have it taken down or give full credit.
********** Anyway, pretty self-explanatory: Gen. Jimmy Stewart at the gate with an Air Policeman during the ‘50s. But the photo looks staged, so I guess this was a production shot from the movie “Strategic Air Command”?
Couple of questions: What would be the significance, if any, of the stripe on this AP’s helmet? And although not pictured here, wondering on what occasions did Air Policemen wear white lacings in their boots? And how long did that practice survive?

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:55 PM

1950's postcard: Parade in San Antonio, TX. Note the natural looking color photography!

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:50 PM

This USAF S/Sgt. is getting a "grip-and-grin" birthday greeting from his boss at Bolling A.F.B., Washington, D.C., August 28, 1949. His wife sent the cake from Hawaii (note open parcel under the unit billboard). The unit arc over the sergeant's SSI is illegible in this photo but 4203rd P.T.S. was associated with the Strategic Air Command and that is a likely W.A.G. for his tab.

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Link here to see the Life Magazine article mentioned in this inscription on the back of the photo (go to pages 70-71):

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:16 PM



@Wailuna:

Thanks for another interesting post. We see he's still got the early cutout prop/wing collar insignia, along with an Army tan tie, but has the S/Sgt moved to wearing an AF blue belt?

It was well worth checking out the "Life" link too. Apart from the fascinating period advertising, I noticed there's an article by 'Hap' Arnold starting at page 120 (dispersed over another approx 15 pages) taken from his autobiography, along with a full page picture of him with Omar Bradley, and various other smaller photographs connected to his life (including ones showing Spaatz and Mitchell).

That issue of Life was good one!

Mark



This USAF S/Sgt. is getting a "grip-and-grin" birthday greeting from his boss at Bolling A.F.B., Washington, D.C., August 28, 1949. His wife sent the cake from Hawaii (note open parcel under the unit billboard). The unit arc over the sergeant's SSI is illegible in this photo but 4203rd P.T.S. was associated with the Strategic Air Command and that is a likely W.A.G. for his tab.

SSgt._Julian_Akui.jpg

Link here to see the Life Magazine article mentioned in this inscription on the back of the photo (go to pages 70-71):

Akui_back.jpg



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Posted 30 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

....he's still got the early cutout prop/wing collar insignia, along with an Army tan tie, but has the S/Sgt moved to wearing an AF blue belt?

Yes, he was a man in transition alright and, as we see, just about anything goes (or went) in 1949. Not only a blue belt with khaki tie but it is interesting that he had switched to the new chevrons before he needed to. The other picture (in the goody box) shows him in an identical uniform except for Army pattern staff sergeant chevrons (and wearing a cap). He was bidding farewell to his wife and daughter in Hawaii as he boarded a ship to the Mainland. We will never know why he was an early adapter of the new USAF stripes as his rank did not change between the taking of these two pictures but this is surely among the earliest date-verified sightings the new stripes being worn that we have seen on the Forum. Can you tell if your dad was wearing USAF stripes the picture at post #229.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 05:13 PM


I don't know if my Dad was wearing Army or AF rank when that picture (post 229) was taken in July of 1949, but I do know that in a photo of him in his khakis at the around the same time/place (Celle, Germany) he is the only one of a bunch of airman wearing a blue chevron. I may have posted this picture before, but can't remember where the hell it's sitting -- it may even be on this thread somewhere! Anyway, if I post a duplicate here, I trust it's no problem.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

And here is a picture of my old man (far left) dated New York, Dec 17, 1948 on leave with some buddies.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 05:40 PM

Note two GIs on right : one wearing cut-out prop/wing device, one still with old style AAF insignia.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 05:48 PM

Another close-up. Can the right shoulder patches be ID'd? And what is that partly covering the ribbons?

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