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Abby K-9
post Aug 2 2009, 11:17 PM
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I'm not really sure whether this is a question or a statement of fact, so please bear with me.

I've noticed that there are some general opinions about reenactors that are really common among non-reenactors. Some people feel that reenactors want to do something in their 'fantasy world' that they could not do in real life. Others feel that it's simply escapism or that it's a kind of cops-and-robbers game for grown-ups. Others think reenactors just have a screw loose.

The thing that really gets me is, even people who have negative opinions of reenactors have no problem taking their kids to a place like Williamsburg where living historians are portraying people from that time period for the benefit of the public, often less authentic and frequently less well-informed about the time period than a serious (hobby) reenactor would be.

What makes one better than the other?
What makes one a more valid historian than another?

I recently found out that a German historian wrote an entire book of first-person accounts of an area I reenact (and have a website on) because she was so offended that anyone would want to reenact that particular area of interest or time period. So she wrote a BOOK to "present history the way it should be presented, on paper" instead of "at reenactments". What the Hades?
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post Nov 5 2009, 04:50 AM
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hello all

interesting replies, I have done the second armored trips in europe, these have little or no shooting, so are they still "re-enactment" does "re-enactment" have to have shooting is it " living history " without shooting

with the second armored trips many of the complaints laid against re-enactment are met :

rank is used by people with the prescence to carry it off, rank is flexible is is tailored to the number participating and to the event

orders are given and expected to be followed, a private " talking to " is the result of not following a request/order

everyone has a role and is expected to do it, be it breakdown, maintenace kp, guard etc

after 10 days of sleeping rough, early starts, late or all nights and maintaining a vehicle you are tired, filthy and unshaven

It is still fun, we drink beer and fornicate with local women

we do things for vets

we educated thousands upon thousands who see us on every trip

everyone is welcome, they are expected to have the right kit, to join in, follow instructions and become part of the unit

we have some great personalities in the group and people from all over the world

you have to be professional, taking a column of armour hundreds of miles across europe is a serious and difficult task, if you do it poorly you can find a lot of serious trouble





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post Nov 5 2009, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(audacia cum prudentia @ Nov 5 2009, 04:50 AM) *
hello all

interesting replies, I have done the second armored trips in europe, these have little or no shooting, so are they still "re-enactment" does "re-enactment" have to have shooting is it " living history " without shooting

with the second armored trips many of the complaints laid against re-enactment are met :

rank is used by people with the prescence to carry it off, rank is flexible is is tailored to the number participating and to the event

orders are given and expected to be followed, a private " talking to " is the result of not following a request/order

everyone has a role and is expected to do it, be it breakdown, maintenace kp, guard etc

after 10 days of sleeping rough, early starts, late or all nights and maintaining a vehicle you are tired, filthy and unshaven

It is still fun, we drink beer and fornicate with local women

we do things for vets

we educated thousands upon thousands who see us on every trip

everyone is welcome, they are expected to have the right kit, to join in, follow instructions and become part of the unit

we have some great personalities in the group and people from all over the world

you have to be professional, taking a column of armour hundreds of miles across europe is a serious and difficult task, if you do it poorly you can find a lot of serious trouble


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post Nov 5 2009, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(DOGFACE1944 @ Nov 5 2009, 06:37 AM) *
Wow Sign me up!!!!!


here you go Dogface

women [url="http://nl.fotoalbum.eu/huubjanssen/a3455967/00000051"/url]

s.sgt jon hayworth ( a true "kelly" if ever there was one ) from Wales
pvt John schoop from America
Pvt "The cock" gregory from Belgium
t5 Tony Illenicky from Belgium

two friendly Dutch girls who met the boys for drinkies later that night

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Abby K-9   Opinions on Reenacting   Aug 2 2009, 11:17 PM
giconceptsjw   I can only speak from my own personal experience b...   Aug 4 2009, 09:37 AM
Bsquirrely   I got tired of all that so I became a closet re-en...   Aug 4 2009, 10:22 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   I'm not really sure whether this is a question...   Aug 4 2009, 10:26 AM
Jim Baker   This is an interesting topic. I'm glad you fo...   Aug 4 2009, 10:33 AM
LoadedColt45   I totally get the whole living history thing – tha...   Aug 4 2009, 10:33 AM
Abby K-9   QUOTE"She had a preconceived opinion and most...   Aug 4 2009, 11:29 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(Abby K-9 @ Aug 4 2009, 12:29 P...   Aug 4 2009, 11:46 AM
Abby K-9   LoadedColt - I think a lot of the people who do Li...   Aug 4 2009, 11:40 AM
LoadedColt45   QUOTE(Abby K-9 @ Aug 4 2009, 01:40 P...   Aug 4 2009, 12:18 PM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(LoadedColt45 @ Aug 4 2009, 01:18 PM...   Aug 4 2009, 12:50 PM
giconceptsjw   I didn’t intend to come off as Mr. Negative or ant...   Aug 4 2009, 01:24 PM
Cobrahistorian   It is kinda funny. I've known Brian and Chris...   Aug 4 2009, 11:47 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(Cobrahistorian @ Aug 4 2009, 12:47 ...   Aug 4 2009, 11:57 AM
kammo-man   Guys , Where else do you get to dress up in your ...   Aug 4 2009, 12:05 PM
Cobrahistorian   I will say, my history background and ten years of...   Aug 4 2009, 12:49 PM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(Cobrahistorian @ Aug 4 2009, 01:49 ...   Aug 4 2009, 01:15 PM
willysmb44   QUOTE(Cobrahistorian @ Aug 4 2009, 01:49 ...   Aug 4 2009, 06:19 PM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(willysmb44 @ Aug 4 2009, 07:19 PM) ...   Aug 5 2009, 09:55 AM
giconceptsjw   Please keep in mind the following is just my opini...   Aug 5 2009, 10:30 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(giconceptsjw @ Aug 5 2009, 11:30 AM...   Aug 5 2009, 10:53 AM
Cobrahistorian   QUOTE(giconceptsjw @ Aug 5 2009, 02:30 PM...   Aug 6 2009, 07:58 AM
JBFloyd   I spent 20 years in the Air Force, of which 6 were...   Aug 4 2009, 01:06 PM
surplus sammy   There are a lot of great points here. Two of which...   Aug 4 2009, 01:40 PM
Cobrahistorian   QUOTE(surplus sammy @ Aug 4 2009, 05:40 P...   Aug 4 2009, 05:45 PM
cco23i   This is the reason I started portraying a WW2 crew...   Aug 4 2009, 03:53 PM
Bugme   My son is a WWII 4th ID reenactor, I don't get...   Aug 4 2009, 04:21 PM
2ndiddogface   I thinkl for the most part, non reenactors don...   Aug 4 2009, 06:12 PM
David   I just use reenacting as another excuse to go camp...   Aug 5 2009, 01:10 PM
2ndiddogface   QUOTEIn the field, you can tell re-enactors to do ...   Aug 5 2009, 06:00 PM
2ndiddogface   oops!   Aug 5 2009, 06:00 PM
Forum Support   I really had not seen much in the way of reenactor...   Aug 5 2009, 06:12 PM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   A Reenactment battle is a good excercise in traini...   Aug 6 2009, 10:19 AM
USMCRECON   When I saw this thread, I hesitated to make any co...   Aug 7 2009, 05:08 AM
USMCRECON   In my earlier comment, it seems I unintentionally ...   Aug 7 2009, 07:31 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   This is the thing that gets me riled up also. The ...   Aug 7 2009, 08:51 AM
Mercenary25   I don't reenact, I just can't dress up and...   Aug 7 2009, 09:44 AM
kammo-man   I have heard of Disgruntled Vets but Disgruntled R...   Aug 7 2009, 09:57 AM
DOGFACE1944   Riddle me this: Why do we collect militaria? Why w...   Aug 7 2009, 10:21 AM
USMCRECON   QUOTE(DOGFACE1944 @ Aug 7 2009, 02:21 PM)...   Aug 7 2009, 11:00 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   ...My only rub is that, on average, they tend to t...   Aug 7 2009, 09:29 PM
jumpwings   Just spoke to one my mates who spent a few years i...   Aug 8 2009, 05:00 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(jumpwings @ Aug 8 2009, 06:00 AM) J...   Aug 8 2009, 10:39 AM
jumpwings   QUOTE(Sgt_Rock_EasyCo @ Aug 8 2009, 07:39...   Aug 9 2009, 09:52 AM
hhbooker2   ABBY K-9: I do not question why one is a re-enacto...   Aug 9 2009, 10:11 AM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   I have several sets of WWII webgear. Two thirds is...   Aug 9 2009, 02:11 PM
Gunnyhiway   I collected my gear in 1992 and 1993 in prep for m...   Aug 9 2009, 04:46 PM
T-Bone   QUOTE(Gunnyhiway @ Aug 9 2009, 07:46 PM) ...   Aug 9 2009, 05:07 PM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   I think I my reenacting rank should be private. I ...   Aug 9 2009, 05:22 PM
Abby K-9   QUOTEI do not question why one is a re-enactor, bu...   Aug 9 2009, 09:00 PM
Sgt_Rock_EasyCo   QUOTE(Abby K-9 @ Aug 9 2009, 10:00 P...   Aug 9 2009, 09:56 PM
USMCRECON   QUOTE(Abby K-9 @ Aug 10 2009, 01:00 ...   Aug 11 2009, 05:20 AM
Abby K-9   QUOTEAs far as being a "farb" goes at a ...   Aug 9 2009, 09:05 PM
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T-Bone   QUOTE(Abby K-9 @ Aug 10 2009, 03:04 ...   Aug 10 2009, 12:25 PM
willysmb44   The rank thing will always be a source of debate. ...   Aug 10 2009, 05:33 PM
Abby K-9   QUOTEIf one is going to "display" a peri...   Aug 11 2009, 09:31 AM
private panda   I have not served in the military and am only stil...   Nov 4 2009, 09:00 PM


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