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Aug 2 2009, 11:17 PM
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I'm not really sure whether this is a question or a statement of fact, so please bear with me.
I've noticed that there are some general opinions about reenactors that are really common among non-reenactors. Some people feel that reenactors want to do something in their 'fantasy world' that they could not do in real life. Others feel that it's simply escapism or that it's a kind of cops-and-robbers game for grown-ups. Others think reenactors just have a screw loose.
The thing that really gets me is, even people who have negative opinions of reenactors have no problem taking their kids to a place like Williamsburg where living historians are portraying people from that time period for the benefit of the public, often less authentic and frequently less well-informed about the time period than a serious (hobby) reenactor would be.
What makes one better than the other? What makes one a more valid historian than another?
I recently found out that a German historian wrote an entire book of first-person accounts of an area I reenact (and have a website on) because she was so offended that anyone would want to reenact that particular area of interest or time period. So she wrote a BOOK to "present history the way it should be presented, on paper" instead of "at reenactments". What the Hades?
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Nov 5 2009, 04:50 AM
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hello all
interesting replies, I have done the second armored trips in europe, these have little or no shooting, so are they still "re-enactment" does "re-enactment" have to have shooting is it " living history " without shooting
with the second armored trips many of the complaints laid against re-enactment are met :
rank is used by people with the prescence to carry it off, rank is flexible is is tailored to the number participating and to the event
orders are given and expected to be followed, a private " talking to " is the result of not following a request/order
everyone has a role and is expected to do it, be it breakdown, maintenace kp, guard etc
after 10 days of sleeping rough, early starts, late or all nights and maintaining a vehicle you are tired, filthy and unshaven
It is still fun, we drink beer and fornicate with local women
we do things for vets
we educated thousands upon thousands who see us on every trip
everyone is welcome, they are expected to have the right kit, to join in, follow instructions and become part of the unit
we have some great personalities in the group and people from all over the world
you have to be professional, taking a column of armour hundreds of miles across europe is a serious and difficult task, if you do it poorly you can find a lot of serious trouble
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Nov 5 2009, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(audacia cum prudentia @ Nov 5 2009, 04:50 AM)  hello all
interesting replies, I have done the second armored trips in europe, these have little or no shooting, so are they still "re-enactment" does "re-enactment" have to have shooting is it " living history " without shooting
with the second armored trips many of the complaints laid against re-enactment are met :
rank is used by people with the prescence to carry it off, rank is flexible is is tailored to the number participating and to the event
orders are given and expected to be followed, a private " talking to " is the result of not following a request/order
everyone has a role and is expected to do it, be it breakdown, maintenace kp, guard etc
after 10 days of sleeping rough, early starts, late or all nights and maintaining a vehicle you are tired, filthy and unshaven
It is still fun, we drink beer and fornicate with local women
we do things for vets
we educated thousands upon thousands who see us on every trip
everyone is welcome, they are expected to have the right kit, to join in, follow instructions and become part of the unit
we have some great personalities in the group and people from all over the world
you have to be professional, taking a column of armour hundreds of miles across europe is a serious and difficult task, if you do it poorly you can find a lot of serious trouble Wow Sign me up!!!!!
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Nov 5 2009, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(DOGFACE1944 @ Nov 5 2009, 06:37 AM)  Wow Sign me up!!!!! here you go Dogface women [url="http://nl.fotoalbum.eu/huubjanssen/a3455967/00000051"/url] s.sgt jon hayworth ( a true "kelly" if ever there was one ) from Wales pvt John schoop from America Pvt "The cock" gregory from Belgium t5 Tony Illenicky from Belgium two friendly Dutch girls who met the boys for drinkies later that night
This post has been edited by audacia cum prudentia: Nov 5 2009, 08:09 AM
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