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#1 MattOravik

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 02:53 PM

This is my favorite pack. A 1st pattern M1910 haversack. I bought it months ago and have just recently found 2 lace-on mess kit pouches for it. I haven't found the tails for it yet.

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 07:41 PM

First one has had the inner flap replaced with OD canvas and a nylon looped strap down the center. Seems like that would be a very late repair job, with nylon.
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 07:44 PM

This second one is even more strange. It has 4 bedroll straps added that have several snaps on one end for adjustment. The strap material looks like something the AAF would have on hand. Both haversack are WW1 dated.
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

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#5 New Romantic

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 10:38 AM

Feel free to add to this post, but please no M1928 Haversacks.

Additional info can be found at my website, http://www.aef-doughboys.com

This is a Mills 1st Pattern M1910 haversack, dated 1911. The disntictive oval- shaped meatcan pouch closes with a rimless eagle snap fastener.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 10:44 AM

This 1st pattern M1910 haversack is the RIA version, dated 1914. Compare the differences b/w this one and the Mills haversack. The meatcan pouch to this haversack is secured with a tack button.

The first pattern haversack is easily distinguished by the web trimmed suspenders, small, oval-shaped meatcan pouch which is secured to the haversack with leather laces and grommets.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 10:48 AM

Seen here is a circa 1914 soldier with 1913 dated Mills rimless eagle snap cartridge belt, M1911 first aid pouch dated 1911, and the 1st pattern haversack.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 10:58 AM

The 2nd pattern haversack began production in 1914, the early variations being a light olive green vs. the post 1916 drab ( khaki). Gone were the distinctive web trimmed suspenders and small meatcan pouch of the 1st pattern haversack.

The suspenders of the 2nd pattern were made of a heavier web and were adjusted using the simplified strap and buckle. The meatcan pouch was now larger, square in shape and featured slots inside for the knife, fork, and spoon. The meatcan pouch was aslo secured to the haversack using two web straps and four brass rings, so familiar to us collectors.

Two RIA, 1915 haversacks are seen here, variations of the back sides shown. One haversack has sqaureshaped tabs on the end of straps and the other has rounded tabs. Also note the khaki suspenders on an olive green haversack in the third photo.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 10:59 AM

1915 dated variation.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 11:02 AM

Now we're on to the wartime manufactured haversacks which were made in huge quantities by many different manufacturers.

The haversack seen here is a typical example, manufactured by RIA, dated 1917.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 11:05 AM

Various wartime manufactured haversacks are pictured here, illustrating the variety of drab shades. Manufacturers and dates from left to right, RIA 1917; Simmons 1917; Simmons March 1918; P.B. & C. 4-18; P.B. & C. 1918; and L.C.C. & Co. 10-18.

I also have a Russell, 1917 haversack which is not pictured here. This haversack is a dull light brown.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 11:15 AM

Finally we have the USMC's version of the haversack which is identified by the lack of the US on the flap, the tabs on the end of the straps are sqaure-shaped, and the haversack is marked in many places with the original Marine owner's name, G. Loring. The meatcan pouch is marked M. Bornstein. Most USMC haversacks were marked "USMC" though this haversack lacks it, most likely washed out.

Some haversacks can be found with a "third eyelet" where the bayonet grommets are. Perhaps, Greg- Marine Kabar can post some of his haversacks.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:15 PM

What are the latest stamped M1910's you know of? Of all the M28's I've had the earliest dated one is 1941, is that the start of manufacture, or were all the early ones used up? Sorry to go a bit off topic as I've never seen a "inter war dated" M1910 or M1928.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:43 PM

The USMC version of the Model of 1910 haversack will typically be this distinctive tan color although some were a dark green color. Hardware will always be cast bronze buckles and square end tabs on the straps. Note the format of the name stamps and the 3rd grommet on the bayonet tab. Nobody seems to be able to come up with a good reason for doing this. "USMC" markings, if they exist and are legible, will be on the inside rear. But the definitive feature for ID'ing these is that 3rd grommet.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 04:43 AM

I've never seen the 2nd Pattern haversacks dated later than 1918. Because so many were made in 1917 and 1918 there was probably no need to make any during the interwar years. But I think I recall someone mentioning that the USMC haversacks were made through the 1930's.

As for the M1928, the earliest I've seen is also dated 1941.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 08:56 PM

Here's my 1st pattern with 2 different meatcan pouches. I can't find any maker markings on either the pack or pouches.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 12:54 PM

Hello Gents

I like this WWI photo very much. Would not you like to comment the haversacks on these US soldiers?

Best regards :)

Greg

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 03:36 AM

Hello Gents

I like this WWI photo very much. Would not you like to comment the haversacks on these US soldiers?

Best regards :)

Greg

Greg is that some kind of insertion to haver? i think i saw that kind of stuff on pics from pacific, is it possible?

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 03:48 AM

Greg is that some kind of insertion to haver? i think i saw that kind of stuff on pics from pacific, is it possible?

Hi Kloo ;)

Frankly speaking I have never seen WWII PTO-based marine equipped with haversack and such a long cocoon. Perhaps other colleagues will help?

Best regards

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 07:46 AM

That is the standard pack extender used when carrying the full bed roll. The man in the first pic has an unusually large bed roll that extends beyond the pack extender. You can see the extender behind the bed roll. The second man has the extender in the normal, intended position.

As for WW2 these extenders were still used and I'm sure you can find pics of the army using them in all theaters. As for the Marines in the Pacific it will probably be harder to find them in use. The M1941 pack system replaced these M1910 / 28 packs fairly early in the war.

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 12:52 PM

This is the pack extender you see in those two pics.

UK made version

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US made version (post 1943 re-dye to OD7)

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:55 PM

The USMC version of the Model of 1910 haversack will typically be this distinctive tan color although some were a dark green color. Hardware will always be cast bronze buckles and square end tabs on the straps. Note the format of the name stamps and the 3rd grommet on the bayonet tab. Nobody seems to be able to come up with a good reason for doing this. "USMC" markings, if they exist and are legible, will be on the inside rear. But the definitive feature for ID'ing these is that 3rd grommet.

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Bonsoir greg ;)

I think the presence of the three eyes is for the correct positioning of the bayonet when the bag is full to bursting. The scabbard of it not coming in from the lower maintenance of the bag.
M10 The hook is passed, either in the left eye and center or in the right eye and the center.
Here is my analysis.
regars solcarlus.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:53 PM

Here is a pair of M1910 Marine Corps Packs with matching Carriers (the Belt is a "Mills" made in 1919); the only marks on these 2 Packs are under the flaps of the Meatcan Pouches. One is the well-known mustard-O.D. used so much in 782 Gear, the other is the pea-green canvas such as is seen in the first-issue Jungle Packs...

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:58 PM

Opened up, with name stamps visible...

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 08:02 PM

Marks under one of the flaps:

QUARTERMASTER'S DEPOT
U.S. MARINE CORPS
1941-1942


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