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#1 IMPERIAL QUEST

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:53 AM

OK, this looks too good to be true. It looks as if it has been hermetically sealed for the past 9 decades. Is it or isn't it??? I will say that the hardware looks very odd and the squared and padded base backing is odd as well, but what do I know...

Whatever the case, this is one beautiful example.
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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:55 AM

A couple more shots...

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 05:58 AM

WOW. I haven't a clue either...but it is quite striking. It just seems to have this overall flow to it.
Very nice! http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 06:02 AM

WOW. I haven't a clue either...but it is quite striking. It just seems to have this overall flow to it.
Very nice! http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif



It is on ebay, and the bidding is up to $400.00 now. I don't know if someone knows something about this wing, or if it just a case of a fool with too much money?? I still cannot get over the beauty of it...wow.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 08:11 AM

It is on ebay, and the bidding is up to $400.00 now. I don't know if someone knows something about this wing, or if it just a case of a fool with too much money?? I still cannot get over the beauty of it...wow.


Plenty of fools on ebay! I expect that this wing will go for BIG STUPID money, maybe into the $2,000-2,500 level.

While this is a pretty wing, I am not sure it is vintage to WWI.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 08:13 AM

Sure is pretty though! Not 2K pretty... http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/think.gif

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 09:04 AM

Sure is pretty though! Not 2K pretty... http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/think.gif


I have seen some really cruddy POS wings sell for over 1000$ recently, and they were the EASY to ID fakes. This one is a tough call. A typical Dallas-style WWI junior/reserve military aviator or obsever metal wing on ebay would likely sell in the $750-1250 price range. For one of the even rarer, but documented styles (say a Tiffany or Eisenstadt), I think you could easily add another 500-1000$ to the price. Heck, a Tiffany wing could very easily push up against the 3000$ range! If two or more of the deep pocket guys get involved, then the prices could go even higher.

To the best of my knowledge this is a pretty "new" pattern that doesn's show up in any of the more recent references (Campbell's or Morris' books on WWI wings, either of the Silver Wings books, and to the best of my knowledge not in any of the Russ Huff-produced books or Wings-N-Things publications.

Clearly this wing falls well outside the range of quality and workmanship for most the normal run of the mill WWI fakes, and may even surpass some of the legit WWI wings in beauty and artisitic merit (IMHO). For me, this is almost a case of the thing being TOO good.

If this is a real vintage wing from 1917-1918, then likely it is a one-of-a-kind'er and would easily be worth some big bucks. Of course, some rock-solid provenance would be nice, or at the very least a vintage photo of them being worn.

On the other hand, I suspect this may be a high end/high quality fake made relatively recently and designed to deceive the high-end collector. In either case, I think enough people will be willing to toss the dice on this one, because at the very least, the winner will end up with something that LOOKS very nice.

Patrick

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 09:48 AM

If something looks too good to be true ...it usually is! http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/dunno.gif

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 07:25 PM

I would like to deconstruct it... looks siilar to things I have seen made by those computer controlled laser cutters. I used to be into custom PC cases and met a guy who had a small set up and made beautiful custom fan grills... if you provided a diagram he could program the laser to cut it.

I wonder...

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 08:51 AM

Bidding is up to $610.00 as of today...and the reserve still has not been met. http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/think.gif

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 07:03 PM

Save the photo's odds are that once it sells another will appear!

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 07:22 PM

Save the photo's odds are that once it sells another will appear!



http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/think.gif ......hmmmmmm, interesting John. So this one could be the marketing prototype for a new fake. Maybe there will be future examples in different stages of wear..."mint" to "battle worn". BTW, I think your earlier comments about laser cutting could be valid, the more I look at this, the less I see of the touch of human hands - it is just too perfect.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 08:24 PM

I agree with John on this one. I would bet some very large dollars that it is a laser cut example. I would like to se it in person so I could view it under magnification. My bet is there is zero evidence of hand chasing on it.

I do agree it is pretty!

Gary


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