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#1 Charles68

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:26 PM

I have heard a lot of horror stories of fake collar brasses, so I wanted to post my pair of roundels and have them critiqued by people who know for certain what they are looking at.
I got these many years ago and together at a house sale, and a few other ww1 and 1930's looking items were included.
I kept them only because I was friends with Doc Parks, and he got me infected with the aviation bug by showing me his WW1 Aviation collection.
I sold off most of what I had over the years, but always kept these.
Are they genuine?
Are they definitely WW1?
What is the market value these days in this condition?

Thanks, Charles

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:30 PM

I also got these from that same sale, but I know almost nothing about them.
I have been informed they are US Army Signals Corps.
Are they worth anything these days?

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:34 AM

I have heard a lot of horror stories of fake collar brasses, so I wanted to post my pair of roundels and have them critiqued by people who know for certain what they are looking at.
I got these many years ago and together at a house sale, and a few other ww1 and 1930's looking items were included.
I kept them only because I was friends with Doc Parks, and he got me infected with the aviation bug by showing me his WW1 Aviation collection.
I sold off most of what I had over the years, but always kept these.
Are they genuine?
Are they definitely WW1?
What is the market value these days in this condition?

Thanks, Charles

I have no problem at all with them. Nice pair of disks. Checking Ebay closed auctions is a good way to get a sense of value.
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#4 Too Much WW1 Militaria

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:39 AM

Discs are a-ok and a matched pair from the looks of it. As for retail value as a set, $100 + retail is a good start.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 06:47 AM

The pin back enlisted disc tend to be french made.

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#6 Too Much WW1 Militaria

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:52 AM

Ron is dead on here. The French also used that rounded shape catch too. All in all, a nice set of discs that are pretty closely mated.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:15 AM

Thanks fellows,

I don't bother with ebay, no camaraderie there, just impersonal corporation.
The heat of auctions, is not really a fair assessment to me.
Once I saw a pair of USMC Tan Sgt Chevrons from WW2 end at $85. I have a similar set, any takers here, at $80?
I value collector experience and knowledge over eBay results.
If business capitalists acted fairly and honestly, (Not solely to maximize profits, to the detriment of all else), our economy wouldn't be in this mess.
At least among fellows in our hobby, we should try and be fair.
I had no idea about the French making them, interesting.
Charles

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:25 AM

Charles

There are also german made ones from the occupational period as well.

As John indicated the catch is typical french as is the two pice construction having the applied wing and prop.Nice variation.The french ones will often have the very styleized wing and prop also.

Good looking set for sure.

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Marines do not fight for thanks,They fight for each other and the Glory of the Corps.
Guns have two enemies....rust and politicians

 

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#9 Too Much WW1 Militaria

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:55 AM

Yep, German firms such as Assman made discs in the occupation period. You will also see discs marked Extra Fein, and buttons. Somewhere in my huge pile of cloth I have a German tailored officers tunic done during the occupation.

John

Charles

There are also german made ones from the occupational period as well.

As John indicated the catch is typical french as is the two pice construction having the applied wing and prop.Nice variation.The french ones will often have the very styleized wing and prop also.

Good looking set for sure.



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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:13 AM

Very nice. I have an original WW1 Air Service uniform with similar pin-back EM's collar brass. I have always considered them to be of French origin.

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