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#1 bobgee

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:51 PM

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This emblem is on a hat in my collection. I took it off the other day and was surprised to see how it is marked. Comments? S/F Bob
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BTW.....I did some net searches for Hilborn-Hamburger and found that they are still in business and now located in Passaic, NJ. Interestingly, In May of this year they were fined $251,000 in Federal Court for making substandard military insignia! I was wondering whether or not they might be cooperative in answering questions about the old days and perhaps helping us understand their 1920s/1930s Hallmarks and the acquistion of the Imperial brand. Anybody near Passaic NJ willing to take a shot? Hmmmmm?
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Posted 05 September 2007 - 02:31 PM

I had actually looked up their mailing address last week and started creating some forum letterhead so I could write them a letter asking that same question.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 03:36 PM

Excellent idea! I doubt they will have much, most companies don't seem to have kept very good records of that type of thing it seems. I also collect pipes and it is often damn hard to date them, even if the company has records they often kept using old stamps for a while after new ones came out.

It's interesting to see the H's outside of the eagle with that early and pre-WW2 rope fouling configuration. I'm very interested in seeing what H&H might have to say.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 05:34 PM

Bob,

Just goes to show that when you think you might be getting a handle on H-H hallmarks, this hallmark pops up on a dress emblem. Totally out of place! For those who aren't aware of this, this is the hallmark, with the H-H outside and below the eagle, that is always found on and associated with H-H bronze service emblems of this type. Here is the proof that Hillborn and Hamburger used a much more complicated hallmarking system than any of us realized.

Maybe we're all overthinking the H-H hallmarking system and it was something as simple as using the hallmark stamp that was closest to the workbench? http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/think.gif

Kurt A lives in NJ. Maybe he can visit and find out if H-H kept their old records. It will be interesting to see what comes of that.

Super nice emblem and hallmark, Bob!

s/f, Gary

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 08:19 AM

Now that's a good one... Anyway, at some point in the future we may very well end up copying many of these "hallmarks" and refitting them into a new format for the Hallmarks section of the Reference area... just so that we can have a clean "catalog" so to speak w/o the other clutter associated with a thread? http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/think.gif

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:20 PM

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