Jump to content


Photo

.30 Ammunition Crate


  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1 OD MAN

OD MAN
  • Inactive
    • Member ID: 3,878
  • 3,577 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mini O Sota

Posted 04 September 2010 - 04:34 PM

Been looking for one of these for ages, and finally got one for cheap at the flea market today.

1944 dated crate for garand 8 round clips in bandoleers. Will go good with my next display. :)




Posted Image

Posted Image

Posted Image

Posted Image

Posted Image

#2 kfields

kfields
  • Members
    • Member ID: 60
  • 2,074 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio

Posted 04 September 2010 - 04:57 PM

od man, that's a great looking box! Now I have something new to look for! Kim

#3 hotlead

hotlead
  • Members
    • Member ID: 2,600
  • 376 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SF Bay Area, Ca

Posted 04 September 2010 - 04:59 PM

I'm willing to bet that should be read as "1344", as in "1,344 cartridges", that would make 7 spam cans, 28 bandoleers, and 1344 rounds in the crate.

Very nice crate, though, I'm more than a little envious :thumbsup:

Edited by hotlead, 04 September 2010 - 05:01 PM.


#4 OD MAN

OD MAN
  • Inactive
    • Member ID: 3,878
  • 3,577 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mini O Sota

Posted 04 September 2010 - 06:17 PM

I'm willing to bet that should be read as "1344", as in "1,344 cartridges", that would make 7 spam cans, 28 bandoleers, and 1344 rounds in the crate.

Very nice crate, though, I'm more than a little envious :thumbsup:



:lol: That would make more sense wouldn't it...



Thanks for the comments!!


edit: Any way to know the date by the other markings?

Edited by OD MAN, 04 September 2010 - 06:18 PM.


#5 doyler

doyler
  • Members
    • Member ID: 342
  • 33,851 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Under The Bridge

Posted 04 September 2010 - 08:26 PM

Heres a couple of mine


First one is AP in cartons

2009_08310012.JPG

2009_08310011.JPG

Edited by doyler, 04 September 2010 - 08:27 PM.


#6 doyler

doyler
  • Members
    • Member ID: 342
  • 33,851 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Under The Bridge

Posted 04 September 2010 - 08:31 PM

Next

M2 in enblocs...

Note US MARINE CORP in Yellow on lid.

Picked both these up in KC at the military show a year ago for $20.THey had set there all weekend and the guy didnt want to haul them home.He was from St.Louis.When I pointed out the USMC marking I had more offers than I could count.

2009_08310013.JPG

2009_08310014.JPG

Edited by doyler, 04 September 2010 - 08:33 PM.


#7 doyler

doyler
  • Members
    • Member ID: 342
  • 33,851 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Under The Bridge

Posted 04 September 2010 - 08:35 PM

Back and end of box

2009_08310016.JPG

2009_08310015.JPG

#8 45B20

45B20
  • Members
    • Member ID: 3,506
  • 127 posts

Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:57 AM

What the letters and numbers “T1EHA” mean:

The first two figures indicate the Standard Nomenclature List this ammo comes from.
In this case it is ‘T1‘; “Ammunition, Rifle, Carbine, and Automatic Gun".
The Standard Nomenclature List (SNL) is a booklet/catalog from which ’things’ were ordered.
Things,, could be any thing from bolts &nuts, tools, weapons, and so on,,, each had their own SNL.
A ‘2½ ton truck could have twenty (or more) SNLs to cover every thing on and in it.

The third letter indicates the weapon and caliber . In this case it is ’E’, “Cal..30 Rifles ‘03 & M1, and Machine Guns”.

The forth letter indicates the “Round and Model”. In this case it is ‘H’, “CARTRIDGE, ball, cal..30, M2, Grade R”

The fifth letter indicates the “Packing”. In this case ‘A’, “8/clip, drg D28288, 6 clips/BAND, M1. Drg D43490, 28 BAND (1344)/mtl-lnd bx M1917, drgs 76-6-44 and C82230” and it weighted 108lb.

With drg D43490 it has a note: “one 8-rd clip in carton, drg B139394, are in each of the six pockets of BANDOLEER, M1. See drg D43491.”

Mtl-lnd is metal lined, the box is a Model 1917, the drg 76-6-44 is one of WWI or just after, the drawings identifications that start with a letter ( the size of the sheet) and then a number, began to be used in the late 30s, 38 or 39.

If that forth letter had been a F it would have been “CARTRIDGE, ball, cal..30, M1”. M1 ball was listed as available, thru out the War.

This stuff changed thru the War, you had to keep your manuals up to date. For instance that forth letter H, in 1942 would have indicated: “5/cp, 12 cp/bl, 20 bl/bx (1200 rds/bx)”

45B20

Edited by 45B20, 05 September 2010 - 01:58 AM.


#9 45B20

45B20
  • Members
    • Member ID: 3,506
  • 127 posts

Posted 05 September 2010 - 01:43 PM

Justin
Forgot to point out one slight thing, that letter and numbers group is the Ammunition Identification Code or A.I.C. Changed a bit in its make up in 51, and was completely don away with in 57 or 58.

45B20

#10 gunbarrel

gunbarrel
  • Members
    • Member ID: 70
  • 6,319 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 06 September 2010 - 08:00 AM

Very nice! It reminded me of reading about them in Eugene Sledge's "With the Old Breed..." He said that they HATED handling those crates because of the marginal end grooves that they had to hang on to them. As heavy as they were, it was extremely hard to do so. He mentions that the grunts bet that whoever came up with that design never had to load them, or unload them off a vehicle, or carry them in the rain. On the other hand, he praised the ordnance that came in crates equipped with rope handles. Stuff you don't think about unless you've been there.


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users