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:thumbdown: I dont now what else to say. There was something special about dusting off your Dress Blues and putting them together while your wife went out to get her hair done for an event...and now all of that is gone.

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:thumbdown: I dont now what else to say. There was something special about dusting off your Dress Blues and putting them together while your wife went out to get her hair done for an event...and now all of that is gone.

 

Obviously the work of a committee.

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I'm going to try and see if I can weasle through my last three years without having to buy this uniform. Now to look good at a Dining Out, you will have to buy a Mess Dress, not happening.

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the uniform do not look good bloused along with wearing a beret with them .. i understand the fact that the military is trying to go one set of dress unifroms and a one set of battle dress and one set of p.t.gear to issuse to the troops but it looks just bad when they wear a beret or a blouse the boots ..

 

now that a personal idea not a public or this forum idea ..

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Yippers. I LOVED my Blues, and wore them every chance I had. But this new concept is a embarassing BOHICA uniform. Kinda like the ACU's. Those who had the final say in both should be publicly flogged and tossed to the curb with the loss of all rank and privileges.

 

As with the ACU, I am glad I was able to retire right before the wear out date of the BDU's. Same with this. Glad I don't have to wear it. As much as I prefered my Blues over the A's, there was nothing wrong with them. At least you looked Army in green. If anything, we should have gone retro back to the old Pinks and Greens or the "Khaki". As it was the most popular according to all the studies and polls conducted when this was all in the hands of the GIF's.

 

My question is, where were the senior NCO's at DA level and why weren't they knocking some sense into the ossifers who allowed all of this?

 

Of course, then again, I am sure that all the "old timers" had the same "KFC are they thinking?" gripes and grumps over the centuries as uniforms changed and evolved. Can you imagine being there when the old Blue was being replaced by the new DRAB Khaki in the late 1800's? Or the old brown shoe guys complaining about the "new" black shoe guys?

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Maybe they should consider just having one Class A uniform with veclro strips down the side of the pants and around the cuffs, to be supplied with interchangeable gold/black braid, depending on the occasion? They could re-name it the "Econo-form"? Seriously though, the US military has always had a reputation for looking sharp...that just doesn't look sharp at all. No offence...just my take.

 

Sabrejet

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I am sorry but the US Army has dropped the ball on uniform design in both field and dress.

If I had my way I would see them in a service dress that was lightweight but demonstrably woolen and of a green that more closely resembeld sage. The polyester stuff just looks cheap and nasty and this latest offering beggars belief. Pants should be bloused in a way that limits the bunched up below the knee look because that looks raggedy.

Retain dress blues as a purchase only item if budgetary cuts are driving the move.

 

By the way, what on God's green earth is going on with USAF dress uniforms?

 

I believe that UPS have better looking uniforms than the military right now. Hate to have to say it.

 

the ACU seems to thankfully have had its day as the whole point of disruptive pattern material is to put good sized blocks of contrasting colours near each other to make the object lose some of its shape to the naked eye. two similar colours in tiny blocks fails to achieve that spectacularly and a plain OD uniform would have the same effect at even a small distance. It does hide that guy on the sofa quite well. :rolleyes:

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That does not look good at all :thumbdown: Who knows why some other services are changing their uniforms, but at least the Marines have not messed with their dress blues or alphas. I think they have the best, sharpest looking uniforms for sure IMHO.

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The Army, for some reason, can not keep from continuing to pursue bad uniform design and clutter. The leadership ought to prepare a simple survey that has photos of past and proposed uniforms, beginning with the pinks and greens and ending with this ridiculous mess. I suspect the majority would choose the classic - and classy - WW II uniform(s) and would solve the problem while simultaneously embracing its heritage. Next would be to eliminate the glut of awards, standardize them across all services (at least the ribbons), unit awards (unless earned as a member of the unit), and medalless ribbons. (A few medals with clasps could solve numerous redundancies.) Replace (for the big Army) the absurd beret with overseas caps with branch/officer piping. Create a functional and effective field uniform and embrace the concept of camouflage as a tactical principle rather than a fashion/political statement.

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The leadership ought to prepare a simple survey that has photos of past and proposed uniforms, beginning with the pinks and greens and ending with this ridiculous mess.

 

They did. And totally ignored everything.

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Personnel entitled to wear bloused trousers such as the Airborne and Special Forces etc. should be provided with specifically tailored tapered ones in order to avoid that horrendous "concertina" look around the knees! Also, dare I say it, these days some American soldiers seem to be wearing more decorations than a Soviet Marshall! I think most people would agree that, in this context a minimalist look would be preferable. Historically, why on earth did the US military powers-that-be elect to ditch the sharpest looking uniform ever...ie "Pinks & Greens"...and replace it with Army Green?! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!

 

Sabrejet :pinch:

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The United States Army deserves a better uniform than this. And I was in the the Marine Corps! Unbelievable how some leaders like a bad idea of theirs rather than a good one of yours.

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Robswashashore
Maybe they should consider just having one Class A uniform with veclro strips down the side of the pants and around the cuffs, to be supplied with interchangeable gold/black braid, depending on the occasion? They could re-name it the "Econo-form"? Seriously though, the US military has always had a reputation for looking sharp...that just doesn't look sharp at all. No offence...just my take.

 

Sabrejet

Sabre -- you crack me up! Good suggestion! I am still absolutely befuddled about this velcro thing...

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Cobrahistorian

Everyone I've talked to who is still serving (myself included) has said the WWII-era uniform is by far the best uniform we've ever had. The uniform situation in the Army right now is horrible and extremely counterproductive. We aviators now wear the worst uniform ever, just so we can look like everyone else. Those features we need in the cockpit are no longer there (ie. pen pockets moved from the upper arm to the lower arm, non-functional velcro on the sleeve closures). The ASU is just another example of this crap.

 

I love my blues. I got married in em. Wearing them as a service dress uniform takes something away from the history and heritage of that uniform.

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I think the WWII uniform scenario is possibly the best idea, overall. Pinks and Greens, and maybe even bring back the IKE jackets as well. The Pinks and Greens looked very nice, and maybe keep the blue uniform as the dress uniform. I was never a big fan of the Army Green service uniform, but it definitely looks better than the new uniform.

 

The Air Force should probably go back to wearing pockets on their service uniforms as well. I"m not a big fan of the uniform as it is worn today. They all look like airline pilots.

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That does not look good at all :thumbdown: Who knows why some other services are changing their uniforms, but at least the Marines have not messed with their dress blues or alphas. I think they have the best, sharpest looking uniforms for sure IMHO.

Amen... and amen.

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Everyone I've talked to who is still serving (myself included) has said the WWII-era uniform is by far the best uniform we've ever had. The uniform situation in the Army right now is horrible and extremely counterproductive. We aviators now wear the worst uniform ever, just so we can look like everyone else. Those features we need in the cockpit are no longer there (ie. pen pockets moved from the upper arm to the lower arm, non-functional velcro on the sleeve closures). The ASU is just another example of this crap.

 

I love my blues. I got married in em. Wearing them as a service dress uniform takes something away from the history and heritage of that uniform.

 

 

 

Historically, the Army uniform (dress, service, and fatigue) has always been blue. Green uniforms didn't come into play until 1902.

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Historically, the Army uniform (dress, service, and fatigue) has always been blue. Green uniforms didn't come into play until 1902.

 

Very true and in that very same year, Blues were designated specifically for "dress" purposes. We've got over 100 years of that uniform being worn for special occasions. Now it is being turned into an everyday uniform.

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Manchu Warrior

In my opinion there was absolutely nothing wrong with the Dress Green uniform. And this is just the Army messing with something that does not need to be messed with. And I recently looked at photos of soldiers wearing ACUs in Korea. And the only thing they are good for is it makes them better targets for the North Koreans. I don't understand what they were thinking Korea has is mostly forest and mountains and there was nothing wrong with wearing BDUs in Korea.

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:lol: The Army continues attempts to reinvent itself and improve recruiting with failed slogans such as "The Army of one" and gimmicks like the beret and changing its service uniforms. The Air Force has also played the uniform game a bit, but not to the extent the Army has. Its McPeak abomination, which tried to make the Navy look like a Delta airline pilot.

 

Truth is, fancy new/different service dress uniforms are not what brings most recruits into the service. The Marines have worn basically the same uniform for well over a century with about the only change being that the choker collar gave way to lapels. They hardly ever have problems with recruitment. Could it be that something other than the type of service uniform might be at play there; like esprit de corps, tradition, etc???

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I actually saw my first officer wearing the blues just the other day. She was a female, and was wearing no jacket...thus, it was blue trousers white short sleeved blouse, 2" (or 3"?) epaulets (with an embarrasingly large bullion Colonel's bird on them) and a black beret. For as much as I'm "into" uniforms, I couldn’t figure out what she was from a distance...I thought maybe a NATO officer or something (no kidding). Up close, it dawned on me that it was the new uniform. Wow. The green looked so nice...

 

Dave

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In my opinion there was absolutely nothing wrong with the Dress Green uniform. And this is just the Army messing with something that does not need to be messed with. And I recently looked at photos of soldiers wearing ACUs in Korea. And the only thing they are good for is it makes them better targets for the North Koreans. I don't understand what they were thinking Korea has is mostly forest and mountains and there was nothing wrong with wearing BDUs in Korea.

 

Most of the world's armies currently wear their variations of US-style woodland BDUs...and yet the US Army abandoned them in favour of grey/pinkish-beige digital camo ACUs! As I said in an earlier post, common sense dictates that... if it ain't broke, then don't fix it!!

 

Sabrejet :think:

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Everyone I've talked to who is still serving (myself included) has said the WWII-era uniform is by far the best uniform we've ever had.

 

Hey, the Navy's going retro...maybe the Army will follow suit? :thumbsup:

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