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#1 Gregory

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 05:06 PM

Hello,

Could I ask you for ID of this photo?

Q#1: Who they are? Are they the gliderborne troops of the 17th Abn, or not?

Q#2: What is this situation? Is this waiting for take-off for the operation Varsity, or not?

Q#3: What patches have two men on their right sleeves -- the men standing at the glider close to round windows?

Q#4: What are three stripes at the technicianís helmet?

Q#5: Is there known something about this CG-4A glider (s/n, unit, etc.)?


http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=abnha2.jpg


Thank you very much for possible help.

Best regards :)

Greg

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 03:11 PM

Hi Greg,
This picture is displayed in the book "SCREAMING EAGLES, The 101st Airborne Division from D-Day to Desert Storm" by Chistopher J. Anderson. According to the author the 3 horizontal stripes on the technician's helmet indicate 101st Divisional Headquarter's Company. This picture was taken just before Operation Market-Garden. The patches on the right sleeves of the two troopers are indistinct but the right shoulder is reserved for combat unit patches after the individual has left that unit. I don't believe the US Army started that policy until after WWII.
Maybe others have more information.
BEAR

PS Hey, Greg....just saw a photo in the helmet section that showed an overcoat with an 82nd patch on the left and a 1st Allied Airborne patch on the right. Maybe the patches we see are 1st Allied Airborne.
http://www.usmilitar...p?showtopic=801

Edited by BEAR, 01 January 2007 - 04:32 PM.


#3 Gregory

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:25 PM

Hi BEAR! :)

Thank you, thank you very much for your info. Now I know at least division. :D

Best regards

Greg

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Posted 07 January 2007 - 03:23 AM

Q#4: What are three stripes at the technicianís helmet?


It's just a square with a camoflage net over it...

The men have "identification flags" on their right upper arms. I think that the flags on the photo are cut out of the brassards.

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 05:40 AM

It's just a square with a camoflage net over it...

The men have "identification flags" on their right upper arms. I think that the flags on the photo are cut out of the brassards.


Correct...these Men are from the 101st Div HQ as indicated by the square insignia with a tic painted at 12:00 on their helmet. The invasion flag is the oilcloth variety either worn as a band, folded and pinned in place or cut down and worn. I want to say that these 'Troopers were communications men but don't hold me to that as I am traveling and don't have my notes.

Hope this helps.

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 08:51 AM

The two mystery patches are US Army Signal Corps insignia - I have a much better copy of this photo somewhere where you can see these patches clearly.

This is obviously highly unusual and there is no explanation of why these patches are being worn - they appear to be a sort of walking-out patch (like the circular "US Army Paratroops" patch for example).

Cheers,
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Posted 08 January 2007 - 02:02 PM

Dear all, thanks again for all your replies.

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