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#1 Capazo

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 05:41 AM

This is my questiion:

How to know if a Combat Infantry Badge is WW2 or a modern badge???

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#2 kfields

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 06:59 AM

This is the process I go through when evaluation a CIB:

1. is it marked sterling on the back ? WW2
2. Is it marked sterling on the back and the clutches are sterling? WW2
3. If it's marked sterling and has brass clutches, do the clutches on the flat side not have the small "bumps"? WW2
4. Is it a long pinback? WW2
5. Is it maker marked by one of the recognized WW2 makers ? WW2
6. Is it possibly unmarked on the back but has a fastening system on back of the type used in wartime england, france or germany? probably WW2 or immediate post-WW2.
7. Does it have the 2 or 3 digit code on back with or without the sterling mark? post WW2
8. Is it a two piece version (with seperate wreath)? WW2
9. Does it have a star between the wreaths at top? obvious post WW2

These are not foolproof, but they are guidelines I use to assist me in determining whether to buy or not and how much to pay.

#3 Steve B.

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 07:02 AM

This site might answer some of your questions: http://36thair3ad.ho...ad.com/CIB.html

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 07:03 AM

The is also a difference in length of the pins on a clutch-back CIB. The WWII badges have shorter pins than the later made pieces. I believe that Craig Pickrall first discussed this. You can contact him through this forum for more info.

Edited by BEAST, 02 August 2007 - 07:04 AM.


#5 Jim Baker

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 08:39 AM

This was a fun thread too.....


http://www.usmilitar...p?showtopic=379

#6 BOB K. RKSS

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 04:52 AM

This is the process I go through when evaluation a CIB:

1. is it marked sterling on the back ? WW2
2. Is it marked sterling on the back and the clutches are sterling? WW2
3. If it's marked sterling and has brass clutches, do the clutches on the flat side not have the small "bumps"? WW2
4. Is it a long pinback? WW2
5. Is it maker marked by one of the recognized WW2 makers ? WW2
6. Is it possibly unmarked on the back but has a fastening system on back of the type used in wartime england, france or germany? probably WW2 or immediate post-WW2.
7. Does it have the 2 or 3 digit code on back with or without the sterling mark? post WW2
8. Is it a two piece version (with seperate wreath)? WW2
9. Does it have a star between the wreaths at top? obvious post WW2

These are not foolproof, but they are guidelines I use to assist me in determining whether to buy or not and how much to pay.

>>> #3 > Clutches with "BUMPS on flat side" are AFTER WWII (& are still made that way today). WWII Clutches were Flat, & had makers Marikngs on the reverse flat side. http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif

#7 Lee Ragan

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 05:47 AM

>>> #3 > Clutches with "BUMPS on flat side" are AFTER WWII (& are still made that way today). WWII Clutches were Flat, & had makers Marikngs on the reverse flat side. http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif

If a clutch has bumps or not on a piece of insignia is meaningless to me. Those things can and often are changed out. You will find genuine WWII items with "bump" type clutches and you will find modern with the old "bumpless" clutches. I've thrown away many a smooth and bumpless clutch because it was worn out and would not grap the post any longer.
When dating this stuff, stick to the piece of insignia, not the clutches. Anybody could have changed those out years ago, or yesterday.

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