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This jumper and hat was purchased about 1 month ago. I need some help with it as I have not identified the striker or specialty mark between the rate and the overseas stripe. Any help would be appreciated. The USS Winchester was a yacht taken over by the USN at the beginning of the war. It did patrol duty along the east coast of the US.

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Bones,

 

That is a neat jumper! I love the WW1 headscratchers. It looks like a sort of stylized airplane? Or maybe that is a representation of the "paravanes" perhaps that was his specialty? Paravanes were the large panels hung off the sides of ships to deflect/detonate mines.

 

Boy, to be honest, I'm just not sure.

 

Are you positive the hat goes with the jumper? The Winchester didn't serve overseas, yet your gob has one overseas stripe?

 

Chris

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It depends if the OS chevron is Silver or Gold. The silver ones sometimes age tone to gold. Silver chevrons were for stateside service, the gold for overseas.

 

Kurt

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It depends if the OS chevron is Silver or Gold. The silver ones sometimes age tone to gold. Silver chevrons were for stateside service, the gold for overseas.

 

Kurt

 

Here is a picture of the USS Winchester, as I stated earlier she just did stateside duty, it does say she was a test ship for mine laying operations. I believe the oversea stripe is silver.

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Kurt,

 

Not saying there weren't any, but I have never seen a Navy or Marine uniform with silver (or blue for less than 6 months) overseas stripes.

 

If they are silver, it would be the first time I had seen same.

 

Bones,

 

Can we get good closeups of the insignia?

 

Cheers!

 

Chris

 

It depends if the OS chevron is Silver or Gold. The silver ones sometimes age tone to gold. Silver chevrons were for stateside service, the gold for overseas.

 

Kurt

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I'd love to have some info on that "mark", I've never seen one like it. It does look like an early minesweeping paravane "pig".

Here's a 1940 Australian paravane:

And a later 1960s era USN "pig":

 

I'd also like to see a closeup photo.

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Kurt,

 

Not saying there weren't any, but I have never seen a Navy or Marine uniform with silver (or blue for less than 6 months) overseas stripes.

 

If they are silver, it would be the first time I had seen same.

 

Bones,

 

Can we get good closeups of the insignia?

 

Cheers!

 

Chris

 

 

I own one :) Here is a Pic. The jumper is researched and he never left the states.

 

Kircher, George,

797 Maple St., Rochester, N. Y.

Entered the service at Buffalo, N. Y., April 2, 1918, at the age of 24 years, in U.S. Navy.

Served, Naval Training Camp, Charleston, S. C., to May 6, 1918;

Receiving Ship, Pensacola, Fla., to Nov. 11, 1918.

Trained, Charleston, S. C. Landsman Carpenter's Mate, Aviation, 121 days;

Carpenter's Mate, 2d Class, Aviation, 41 days.

Discharged, March 4, 1919.

 

Name Kircher, George

Cemetery Holy Ghost

Burial location Sec. M, lot 6

Division 12

Born Nov. 5, 1893

Rank C M 1/C Aviation

Unit USN

Died Nov. 9, 1972 at aged 79

Type of tombstone private

 

 

Kurt

 

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Here is a close up of the striker or specialty mark. Not very clear as I have not figured out our new camera yet. The uniform is named to C. Herman Siems but I have not had time to research him yet. It does appear to be the paravane mentioned above. It is not an anchor or an airplane.

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Kurt,

 

Well I'll be a some-bee-hatch!

 

You have broadened my horizons! But I gotta say, this is why I love WW1 stuff; all the off-the-wall stuff!

 

I Learned two new things today; There was a striker for "paravanes" and silver OSS were used by the Navy.

 

Thanks to all!

 

Mods,

 

This one needs to find it's way to the reference section

 

Thanks again to Kurt and Bones!

 

Chris

 

I own one :) Here is a Pic. The jumper is researched and he never left the states.

 

Kircher, George,

797 Maple St., Rochester, N. Y.

Entered the service at Buffalo, N. Y., April 2, 1918, at the age of 24 years, in U.S. Navy.

Served, Naval Training Camp, Charleston, S. C., to May 6, 1918;

Receiving Ship, Pensacola, Fla., to Nov. 11, 1918.

Trained, Charleston, S. C. Landsman Carpenter's Mate, Aviation, 121 days;

Carpenter's Mate, 2d Class, Aviation, 41 days.

Discharged, March 4, 1919.

 

Name Kircher, George

Cemetery Holy Ghost

Burial location Sec. M, lot 6

Division 12

Born Nov. 5, 1893

Rank C M 1/C Aviation

Unit USN

Died Nov. 9, 1972 at aged 79

Type of tombstone private

Kurt

 

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