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#1 usmcaviator

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:31 AM

These insignia brought $271.00. I believe these are NCHS reproductions, anyone else agree? They are marked "sterling", lack detail and appear fairly crude. I am unable to post the pics. I know these "sterling" sets were being sold just a few months ago by NCHS on ebay. It appears to me that this set was chemically aged and then resold as original. http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

#2 Bob Hudson

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:40 AM

I enlarged them a bit:

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:43 AM

Mike, your correct - the seller has a LONG history (since 03/04? and recently changed name) under the seller name of "thepengiun" pushing these and similar to the un-suspecting... s/f Darrell

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:46 AM

another set, exactly same. These NCHS ones are starting to be aged and sold as real. Buyer beware. http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item3ca9f478e6

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:07 AM

Man, just when you think you're developing a "trained eye"!

Thanks for posting this, Mike, I know that I for one might have been fooled....

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:18 AM

So who is the culprit here, NCHS for selling items not marked as Repros full well knowing this would happen? Obviously a good chunk of his sales are people like this.

I put "House of Swords" out of business many years ago with a mail fraud charge. He had so many complaints against him, but no one bothered to supply the Attorney General with any information or details for them to prosecute. I game them 161 counts suspected fraud in one of his catalogues along with evidence to back it up.

If someone purchases an EGA and this person knowingly is passing it off as original and has it delivered via the US Mail they are pretty much done for if someone files a Mail Fraud Case. If there is an EBAY auction showing this person bought these from NCHS and then he is selling them aged there is some of the evidence.

I spent years curtailing the sale of fake Holocaust related items on Ebay and even offered Ebay my services for free, but to no avail. I received threats of all sorts by people selling the fake stuff. Enough threats for me to speak with the FBI and get a PO Box to avoid a bomb in the mail at my house. Luckily nothing that severe happened, but you never know these days. I can't be the Ebay police so I stopped wasting time. Buyer beware and the best protection is education.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:30 PM

Glad there was comment on these. I was wondering about them, didn't look right.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:54 PM

These insignia brought $271.00. I believe these are NCHS reproductions, anyone else agree? They are marked "sterling", lack detail and appear fairly crude. I am unable to post the pics. I know these "sterling" sets were being sold just a few months ago by NCHS on ebay. It appears to me that this set was chemically aged and then resold as original. http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Mike,

Instead of NCHS, I think these may have started out as a pair of these:

http://www.1903.com/...p?productID=465

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 08:20 AM

Mike,

Instead of NCHS, I think these may have started out as a pair of these:

http://www.1903.com/...p?productID=465


Anyone know how many originial dies are out there?

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 01:49 PM

Mike,

Instead of NCHS, I think these may have started out as a pair of these:

http://www.1903.com/...p?productID=465

You are right, NCHS has been making a different pattern. These appear to be from that site you posted..thanks!

As for dies, these fakes are not stamped, they are from a mold of originals. The dies themselves???? who knows. Most of these were made from multiple pieces, with the eagle anchor and globes being seperate pieces. I have never seen any dies, there was an old button die on e-bay (may still be there).

Mike

Edited by usmcaviator, 10 February 2010 - 01:50 PM.


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Posted 14 February 2010 - 05:37 PM

saw both of those sets and watched out of curiosity...somebody was fooled

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:48 AM

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