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#1 gunner

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:56 PM

this is my uncles family heirlooms, hes going through everything and we are trying to identify the stuff and get an idea of what its worth. he is going to part with a decent amount of it and i would buy it all if i had the money but times are tough so i figured getting to touch it was good enough. and i also figure well try and give everyone on the site a chance to get it before he goes through antique dealers and guys on the street. let the true collectors add it to their collection.

so here is my favorite item... a wooden crate that hold two tins of m1 carbine ball ammo cal .30, one tine is opened and one tin is still sealed from the factory.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:57 PM

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 06:47 PM

There was a guy at the gun show this last weekend that was selling boxes out of a can like this for $30 a box. At the end of the show, he had sold two. Don't know if that means it wasn't worth that much, or if there was just no one interested in them.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:40 PM

Yep at the cost of .30 carbine ammo I wouldn't give that stuff away. Modern non collectible stuff is selling for $250 per 500 rnds and up.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:11 PM

the shells are dated 43, i forgot to mention.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:23 PM

the shells are dated 43, i forgot to mention.


That helps, the ammo the guy was selling at the Gun Show was Korean war vintage.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 09:46 AM

Yep at the cost of .30 carbine ammo I wouldn't give that stuff away. Modern non collectible stuff is selling for $250 per 500 rnds and up.


If I were selling that stuff, I'd try to reach a target market of carbine affectionados who would pay top price. I'm trying to recall if the CMP website allows people to post items for sale...

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 10:02 AM

CMP does have a buy/sell area on their forums. Probably get quite a few folks looking to add a box to their carbine to display or whatever. If it were me, I would put them up for more than $30 per box.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 10:28 AM

CMP does have a buy/sell area on their forums. Probably get quite a few folks looking to add a box to their carbine to display or whatever. If it were me, I would put them up for more than $30 per box.

This stuff is not rare.It brings $25 to $30 a box.It shows up quite often on the CMP forum and just as often doesn't sell.The majority of folks over there are interested in ammunition to shoot not collect.The unopened tin is the better piece and will bring more money than selling individual boxes.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 10:36 AM

This stuff is not rare.It brings $25 to $30 a box.It shows up quite often on the CMP forum and just as often doesn't sell.The majority of folks over there are interested in ammunition to shoot not collect.


Modern carbine ammo has been hovering around $25 a box, maybe a little less now. Yes, folks want stuff to shoot, but look at garand ammo. You will soon be able to buy it again probably for 30-40 cents a round. WW2 vintage m2 ball ammo goes around $1 just because it is collectable. You cant't tell me there is no marked for original boxed ww2 carbine ammo and that it doesn't sell for much more than modern rounds. Perhaps the CMP is not a good place to sell it. Maybe try some sites like Jouster or gunboards.com

Price it however you want, but if you can't get at least $35 per box, wait a while and try again. If you decide to sell it for $25/box let me know, I'll buy some!

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 12:21 PM

here it is---- the ammo you have is corrosive and any one who has a very collectible carbine will not shoot that stuff. the ammo itself is collectible to a ammo collector or some one who has a nice ww2 carbine on display and wants the ammo as a display item. if i had a carbine that was a BLUE SKY or a import shooter that ammo would be ideal. about 25-30.00 a box.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 12:26 PM

This stuff is not rare.It brings $25 to $30 a box.It shows up quite often on the CMP forum and just as often doesn't sell.The majority of folks over there are interested in ammunition to shoot not collect.The unopened tin is the better piece and will bring more money than selling individual boxes.

I agree with Blair on this. Pretty common to find at any big gun show and I have seen the unopened cans sell for 3-400.00, I also see the one's that are priced at 500.00 +, they go home with the seller every time. :lol:

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 12:27 PM

The good thing about carbine ammo is that I don't believe that it was ever produced with corrosive primers. The M2 ball, you have to be careful as it was at one time made with corrosive primers and you don't clean your gun properly, you will kill your barrel. I don't remember when that cut off was on the M2 though. I have shot plenty of late war carbine ammo before I was a collector and put a stop to it. In many cases, it was cheaper to shoot milsurp ammo than to buy new commercial!

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 12:34 PM

All,repeat,all U.S.military carbine ammo is non-corrosive.Here's a chart for production of NC ammo for U.S.military http://www.survivalb...ncorrosive.html

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 12:40 PM

In many cases, it was cheaper to shoot milsurp ammo than to buy new commercial!

Yep, even up till the late 90's I was able to get bulk Mil for around .15 a round. I sure miss those days, a 1200 round case of 7.62x39 for 60.00, 100 rnd belt of M-60 ball for 20.00, Ahhh... :rolleyes:

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 01:38 PM

LOL That just proves the point I was making.


I have several thousand rounds (around 1000 ww2 mostly loose, some boxed and a few thousand LC70's era) already and don't need it, but would invest in some at that price. If I had just bought a nice usgi carbine I would love to have a box or two just to show with it (same with period correct mags, mag pouch, carbine case....). Maybe it is just where I am from, but I never see ww2 carbine ammo still in the box for sale, ever. But hey, if I'm way off on price then it is good for me to know that ww2 usgi carbine ammo is cheap. To the OP, PM me if you are really interested in selling some of it.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:48 PM

Not corrosive, carbine ammo was produced with boxer, non corrosive primers. Good to shoot in any weapon.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 05:48 PM

Hawkdriver is correct - all M1 carbine ammo was made with non-corrosive primers so you can shoot this stuff. I would bet, though, that the value is with collectors and not with someone who wants to shoot it - you can pick up carbine ammo easily but finding a sealed can with a '43 headstamp is pretty rare these days.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 05:54 PM

Exactly why I'm interested in it.


Most of the boxed WWII vintage carbine ammo I see has been repacked and the boxes stamped with the repack date - so a box of this would be a great part of a display. I've got a box of Winchester but it was repacked - nice but not as nice, to me, as an untouched box.

By the way, the first time I served as a safety officer for an 8" SP Howitzer battery in 1978, when I went to inspect the powder I noted that it was manufactured in 1943 and repacked in 1954. Talk about some erratic burn rates!! I thought I was watching my career go downrange with just about every round that came out of those howitzers!! lol

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:36 PM

the more i think about it this is my favorite piece in my uncles collection. i was told today that the unopened "spam" can is filled with a preserving gas from the manufacturer that keeps the ammo "fresh" for as long as its sealed, that along with the non corrosive factor, this stuff could last forever. everyone who looked at it wanted to buy it at shooter ammo price and to shoot! WE SAID HELLL NO! i want this to end up in a collectors hands who isnt going to want to open it, if i had the money id buy it just to preserve history! but all i could afford was the crate it came in which is pretty freaking cool looking if you ask me!

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:18 AM

i was told today that the unopened "spam" can is filled with a preserving gas from the manufacturer that keeps the ammo "fresh" for as long as its sealed, that along with the non corrosive factor, this stuff could last forever.



I won't say that this stuff wasn't sealed with an inert gas for preserving, but it is not the gas that keeps it fresh, it is the fact that the ammo is waterproofed during the loading process. Asphaltic tar is placed in the case mouth, and a laquer sealant is placed outside the primer area. This stuff will be good to shoot because of the waterproofing, not an inert gas. Look at a primer of one of the rounds and you will find a red ring. All military ammo is done this way since WWII, just that now they use purple for the primer seal instead of red.


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