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#1 teufelhunde.ret

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 09:39 AM

This emblem appeared early this week on EBAY: http://cgi.ebay.com/...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Sellers description: A very finely crafted, jeweler made US Marine Corps officer's collar insignia eagle, globe and anchor. In excellent condition, no makers mark but it does have an early jewlery pin back fastener with a barrel hinge. A unique eagle long neck and hand cut anchor as can be seen in the picture.

Well honestly, I do not agree for the following reasons:

1) anchor flukes look like nothing I've seen - more sweetheart pin character - fish hooks?
2) the stock has no rings and is tapered - look t the example used from the collection of Mike Manifor.
3) a barrel clasp on a pre 1904 EGA - I think not...!These clasps did not come around until the late teen's
4) overall details are soft - no crispness to a piece - jeweler made ? No self respecting silversmith would do this.
5) why a single lefty - always sends up my radar. Why is it every time I see one of questionable nature - its the left collar version?
6) no real wear evident - the whole piece has the same appearance - dull details - no crisp recesses, as on the example
7) the piece is just to large - IMO. The eagle is to large for the scale - IMO. Reg's of the time called for the emblems worn on the collar to be half the size as those of the epaulets.

... and WHERE IS THE PATINA?

Interested in hearing from others. s/f Darrell

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 09:42 AM

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 09:43 AM

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 03:12 PM

the more I study it, the more I have to agree. the metal quality almost seems inferior, and far too shiny, even if a period piece had been polished.

I have a feeling it's going to bring a hefty sum of moola, however

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 08:53 AM

I dont like the anchor flukes..I've seen this trait on some very bad pieces. Think I'll save my money and let someone else gamble with their own!

Mike

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 02:00 AM

I dont like the anchor flukes..I've seen this trait on some very bad pieces. Think I'll save my money and let someone else gamble with their own!

Mike


Well Mike someone felt it was worth the gamble - to the tune of $1320 bucks! :pinch:

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 05:40 PM

never expected it to get that high!

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:52 AM

Fellow forum members:

You are in the Marine Corps EGA reference section. This area is were posts from the Marine Corps, USMC EGA discussion section are moved for permanent retention and education about the history of the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. As time moves forward there maybe additional information the EGA Moderators wish to add or will add to this specific post. We ask for your input as well.

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