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#1 USARV72

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 04:12 PM

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Early S.F. Trooper trying to trade a chicken for info on the V.C.
Sateens,(AKA "Pickle Suit") Non spike protective Jungle Boots, M-3 A1, 1911 A-1 and a choked chicken. :D

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:02 PM

Nice, but with the subdued US ARMY and name tape your looking at late 1966- ealry 1967, maybe find a shirt with white and Gold on black tapes :)
just a sugestion thats all :)
love ealy SF stuff too!!!

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:48 PM

I love the mannequin. He looks very life like.

As Paul says you shirt is not early. I would date it to between 1968 and 1969.
These dates are only approximate. However we have a good idea of the dates of your shirt because of the layout of the patches.
In SF by 1970 subdue SSIs and pin on rank were the norm. Your shirt having color SSI and color sew on rank predates this.
Conversely with color para wings but subdue name tape (btw they are the early subdue printed type tapes) I would date it to post 1967, which was the year US army tape was mandated to be subdue. Prior to that it was the white name tape only that was mandated to be changed.

Also I can't remember off the top of my head but when were 3rd type fatigues introduced?

I have shirt with exactly the same layout, though for an officer. It came with a 1968 dated dry-cleaning slip still attached to it.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/leighm25a/Uniforms/uniforms106-3.jpg

Hope that helps to date your shirt.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 05:49 AM

Uhhhhhh, yea,Thanks. I did not say Real early which would be the Black & Gold and white name tape.
Have the real early stuff packed away, I dont have room to display or even look at it all. :rolleyes:

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 07:56 AM

OK, I'll have to dig out the Tiger Stripes he had on last year. You guys are going to make me work.Thought anything before 67 was early, real early would be 64-66? Guess its all on how you look at it, I was there in 72 and that was real late.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 12:04 PM

I love the mannequin. He looks very life like.

As Paul says you shirt is not early. I would date it to between 1968 and 1969.
These dates are only approximate. However we have a good idea of the dates of your shirt because of the layout of the patches.


The shirt looks to have flat buttons instead of late war thick jungle fatigues buttons. It make me think it s dated back to 65-66. So the display is correct

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 12:15 PM

These guys have no clue what they are talking about .

Your rubber chicken is the real show stopper here .

Do you have anyother rubber items you can use in your displays ?

You are really on to something with this kinda acessory

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 12:18 PM

These guys have no clue what they are talking about .

Your rubber chicken is the real show stopper here .

Do you have anyother rubber items you can use in your displays ?

You are really on to something with this kinda acessory

owen


Hahah , I was asking myself what the guy is holding in his hands ... just add few feathers to make more realistic :D

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 12:45 PM

All I can say is bazzar !!!!


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Posted 25 June 2009 - 04:27 PM

All I can say is bazzar !!!!
owen



At least its not a skinned CAT!!!!over there, "Cat the other white meat" is the real thing!
There is this cigar smoking, beer swilling old rat around the shop....000_0792.jpg







In his youth he did things that should not be posted here for the young to read about........................


I really did'nt want to start something with the S.F. Display, thought it was about 1966.
I'm no expert
Felt so bad I looked in Stantons S.F. book and found a couple of pics of guys wearing sateens. Granted most wore 1st or 2nd mdl jungle fatigues......Hated those sateens, damn pickle suits, had to wear them back states side at Bragg.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 04:30 PM

Dude please do not get me wrong your guy looks great .
Maybee a year off but awsome effort .
The chicken shows you have good ideas outside the box
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Posted 25 June 2009 - 04:53 PM

The shirt looks to have flat buttons instead of late war thick jungle fatigues buttons. It make me think it s dated back to 65-66. So the display is correct


Sorry but with the subdued printed name and US ARMY makes it 1967, so if anything its mid war, but not early by any means I consider early anything before 1965.
still a nice uniform and display and Thanks for your service too :)

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 08:43 PM

For the record, I consider anything pre '65 to be early war.

'65 to 69 Mid war and 70 to 73 Late war.

But that is just me.

Nothing wrong with your shirt or the display.
BTW does the shirt still have the name on the tag?
If it does we may be able to look it up and see if he served in 'Nam and with which Det.

Edited by Mr-X, 25 June 2009 - 08:47 PM.


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Posted 25 June 2009 - 09:27 PM

One other problem with doing an early SF impression is finding the early pre-1965 Scull & Harp DI for your 1st, 5th or 7th Group impression. those damn things are getting harder and harder to find :)

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:10 AM

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 08:08 AM

Thats a great Special Forces name; Hardcastle, I think the only cooler name was Msgt Joe SHOCK
Nice shirt USARV72

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 08:32 AM

With a name like that all I can say is

19 19 na na na na 19

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 11:34 AM

LMAO..........yea it was a "cheap store" find back in the 80's????other than what is there, no additional info about it. Like all this stuff, it's a shame it can't talk :rolleyes:

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 02:03 AM

LMAO..........yea it was a "cheap store" find back in the 80's????other than what is there, no additional info about it. Like all this stuff, it's a shame it can't talk :rolleyes:


Oh but with a name like Hardcastle it can talk. :thumbsup:
Now with a Smith or a Brown you might be in trouble, but a Hardcastle is no sweat :w00t:

I can tell you that this shirt belonged to SP5 Jimmie Hardcastle who did a tour with Det 4612 (Nam Pung Dam) of the 46th SF Company Thailand as Det Demmo NCO.
I believe the tour was in 1967-68, but can not confirm the dates.

I have been unable to confirm Vietnam service due to the fact the my computer crashed and I lost the copy of Sherman's CIB, CMB & VNJW pdf database that I had on it.
The above information came from my hard copy set of Sherman's Who's Who from Special Forces Thailand.


I know I know, I am da man!

When I get a new copy of Shermans CIB, CMB & VNJW pdf database I'll let you know if he is there.

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 05:00 AM

Oh but with a name like Hardcastle it can talk. :thumbsup:
Now with a Smith or a Brown you might be in trouble, but a Hardcastle is no sweat :w00t:

I can tell you that this shirt belonged to SP5 Jimmie Hardcastle who did a tour with Det 4612 (Nam Pung Dam) of the 46th SF Company Thailand as Det Demmo NCO.
I believe the tour was in 1967-68, but can not confirm the dates.

I have been unable to confirm Vietnam service due to the fact the my computer crashed and I lost the copy of Sherman's CIB, CMB & VNJW pdf database that I had on it.
The above information came from my hard copy set of Sherman's Who's Who from Special Forces Thailand.
I know I know, I am da man!

When I get a new copy of Shermans CIB, CMB & VNJW pdf database I'll let you know if he is there.



Well "hush my Mouth" as my dear departed grandmother used to say.........all I can say is....this is just another reason to be a member here. :thumbsup:

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 08:09 AM

too true!!
why don't I have those books by Sherman?????

gotta get into the 21st Century and stop draggin' my feet!!

P

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 09:03 AM

Ok, now how do I change the title of this post to Thailand????? :ermm:

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:35 AM

With a name like that all I can say is

19 19 na na na na 19

owen


Great. Now that song is stuck in my head. Damn Paul Hardcastle tune...

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:04 AM

Sorry Chris but it was to hard to resist

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 11:56 PM

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