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#126 Steve Brannan

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 06:33 PM

Have three early Air Corps wings in my collection. All marked "FROM OFFICIAL DIE". First is the Pilot wing:

Has the so called Tiffany style catch marked Sterling.

 

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#127 Steve Brannan

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 06:36 PM

Second wing is the Observer wing:

 

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#128 Steve Brannan

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 06:40 PM

Last one is the Pilot Observer wing authorized from 1920-1921. The US appears to me to be solid gold.

 

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Posted 23 January 2015 - 09:59 AM

Steve, those are really great wings.

 

Here is a new one that I got off of eBay recently.  It is on a WWI uniform with and I Corp patch and Mexican service/WWI victory ribbon bars.  A post-WWI set up and worn in the early 1920's.

 

I have heard that one reason why the bullion turns this bronze color is if the original owner was a smoker, the cigaret smoke would tarnish the silver bullion thread this way.

 

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 02:32 AM


I have heard that one reason why the bullion turns this bronze color is if the original owner was a smoker, the cigaret smoke would tarnish the silver bullion thread this way.

 

Well, not exactly.  

 

Usually silver military embroidery was manufactured using (1) silver wire,  (2) cotton thread wrapped with a thin silver wire or (3) copper wire that had been coated (plated) with a silver wash of vary thickness. 

 

Over a period of time and due to any number of different reasons such as heavy use, dry cleaning, oxidation, etc the silver will tarnish and need to be cleaned or. . .  as in the case of number (3) and depending on the thickness of the silver plating applied to the metallic thread used as its base, the silver coating could be lost completely because of age or flaking. 

 

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 09:33 AM

Hi Cliff,

 

Art told me that little trick about the cigaret smoke.  Of course, you're correct, lots of things tarnish the wings.  On some uniforms, you can actually still smell the cigaret smoke in the fabric.  ewww.



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Posted 24 January 2015 - 01:46 PM

:huh:

 

Patrick, I've received many a bullion insignia that reeked of cigarette smoke because the dealer who sold it was a smoker.  Having said that, I don't agree with the theory that cigarette smoke will discolor (or harm) silver bullion on a permanent basis.  If by chance the smoke did leave a minor tar stain both it and the smell may be removed by using warm vinegar which will not harm the bullion.

 

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 02:57 PM

Or you could just enjoy the wing.... :blink:

 

All I said was that I had heard that this type of yellowish/brown tarnish can sometimes happen when the original owner was a heavy smoker. 



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Posted 26 January 2015 - 02:04 AM


All I said was that I had heard that this type of yellowish/brown tarnish can sometimes happen when the original owner was a heavy smoker. 

 

:lol: Yes, that is what you said however. . .

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:32 AM

I have also heard that you can lick a wing that you suspect has been chemically patinated, because frequently you can taste the residue chemicals.  But I will neither confirm or deny that I do any such thing.



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:22 PM

Finally joined the "From Official Die" wing club.

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:23 PM

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:25 PM

As much as I would like to take credit for this wing, my dad is the one who actually bought it... super cheap at a local flea market.  I had every intention of going with him at 0'dark 30 that morning, but I had had one or two gin and tonics the night before and decided to sleep in late.  So he was the one who got it this time--it was waiting for me next to the coffee when I got up.  He just wanted the rest of the guys to know and to make sure I didn't take credit!  Thanks Dad.  We have matching head wounds from each of us body surfing into a sand bar during the family vacation.

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:30 PM

Way to go Dad!



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 06:12 PM

^_^

 

I think that's terrific Patrict, and that wing will always have a very special meaning for you since your father got it for you.

 

Cheers,

 

Cliff 



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Posted 20 August 2015 - 04:13 PM

Here is another very nice wing that came from out east via my Pops.

 

This is a J A Meyers & CO wing made in Los Angeles probably in the 1920's (not associated at all with N.S. Meyer).  J A Meyers & CO was founded in 1912 and was located in the jewelry district in downtown LA and was primarily involved in making wedding rings.  I believe that around 1950, Francis Meyers (the son) took over the company and ran it until the mid 1970's.  Francis Meyers was involved with UCLA adult education and tragically was killed in an automobile accident in the late 1990's (well into this 80's).

 

My gut is that this wing was made in the 1920's or early 1930's, but not much later than that.  I really like the detail in the shield!

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 06:14 PM

Patrick, awesome wing. tell your Dad he did an awesome job again,Jay



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 06:13 PM

Hello,

I need some who has expert in U.S. Naval Wings from WWI to date. Can anyone tell me if these Balloon Pilot Wings are Authentic and what time period. And how to you add photos.

 

Navycod

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#144 pfrost

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 08:21 PM

You should be able to find help on this forum.

As for adding photos, try looking here.

 

Welcome, BTW

 

http://www.usmilitar...photos-imaging/



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:00 PM

Navycod, a few years ago, there was an ebay dealer with the moniker of USN/USA who sold a number of these 1/2 wing reproductions. I'm afraid one of them was indirectly funneled your way...  


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:50 PM

Hello,

I need some who has expert in U.S. Naval Wings from WWI to date. Can anyone tell me if these Balloon Pilot Wings are Authentic and what time period. And how to you add photos.

 

Navycod

 



#147 Navycod

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:58 PM

I found I had bought two fake wings from this guy on ebay, but requested a refund, it was accepted, we'll see if he will pay up. this pair was one and second one was an WWI Naval observers half Wing. I have others I'm now unsure of.

 

Nick 



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:59 PM

Still can't figure out how to post photos.



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 06:08 PM

I got my money back on these two Wings, from Mrwallpaper on Ebay.....Nick



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

Not sure now what real and whats Fake or Reproduction, have lots of Wings.




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