Dirk Posted June 2, 2014 Share #201 Posted June 2, 2014 And another 1932 Soochow comes to the surface. This one was mounted in a photo album belonging to a 1st Sgt who was present for the first battle of Shanghai.....but the big benefit for me was the cert that came with it....enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 2, 2014 Share #202 Posted June 2, 2014 Fantastic! Medal closeups, please, we don't see enough 32's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 2, 2014 Share #203 Posted June 2, 2014 Interesting that there's 2 lines for the name to be engraved between Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 3, 2014 Share #204 Posted June 3, 2014 Here is the medal again. After a hasty post I wanted to re look at the medal today and compare it to my 1937. The size and thickness matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 3, 2014 Share #205 Posted June 3, 2014 here is the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 3, 2014 Share #206 Posted June 3, 2014 A detail of the Honey Cart driver/border edging....as well as a crude side-by-side comparison with the 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 3, 2014 Share #207 Posted June 3, 2014 Also details of the back and the Honey Cart falling "E". An interesting variation of the medal with the two engraving guide bars.....This medal came out of a 1Sgt 's spouses album who maintained the family album while both were in Shanghai 31-33. The album and cert are good....but have not seen this guide bar feature before....anyone else have a similar Soochow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 3, 2014 Share #208 Posted June 3, 2014 I remember Darryl suggesting these were possibly made by a coin maker...I'm wondering if we'll ever get a definitive answer on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share #209 Posted June 4, 2014 Good pics, Dirk. Interesting variation. Wonder if these medals were initially made in batches and then later on order? The guide lines are something I have not seen before. Those 1932 SooChows are tough to find. Congrats! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 4, 2014 Share #210 Posted June 4, 2014 Thanks Bob! Was talking to Tim last night and we agreed at some point that smoking gun piece of info will surface....in a letter, a note or original box that will answer the who made these questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemono Posted June 4, 2014 Share #211 Posted June 4, 2014 Dirk, That is a very interesting Soochow Creek medal, I have never seen the engraving guide lines. The die seems to have been struck at least twice since you have the double impressions of the letters. Here is my 1932 Soochow Creek medal and certificate. These were also found in a Marine scrapbook. The certificate was pasted in and the medal ribbou was pinned to the page. I have seen a few Soochow Creek medals with the red white and blue ribbons but most seemed to be navy while this is USMC. There is also a picture of the edge detail. It is hard to tell but these medals might have been struck in two pieces and soldered together. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 4, 2014 Share #212 Posted June 4, 2014 Thank you Dick for sharing these images! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted June 4, 2014 Share #213 Posted June 4, 2014 Superb macros folks! Keep in mind THERE ARE variations in dies, thus medals. Coming from an old numismatist background of the 60s / 70s. Don't get hung up with intrinsic nuances of these dies /planchettes and yes I think there is a high probability of these coming from someone who was producing coinage, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemono Posted June 4, 2014 Share #214 Posted June 4, 2014 I think there were several dies made for the medal since there are variations in detail if you look through all of the struck (not fake cast medals) in this thread. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 4, 2014 Share #215 Posted June 4, 2014 D thank you for weighing in! Maybe so on the coinage, local currency was faked so widespread in the country at that time no one trusted it.....am thinking any number of jewelry shops with a coin maker on staff could have been the maker. I have several guesses who might have been the maker....or makers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2014 Share #216 Posted June 4, 2014 You guys are giving me the itch to star variation hunting. Unfortunately, had to trade my last Soochow towards one of those deals you don't let go by you. But I'm back on the hunt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted June 4, 2014 Share #217 Posted June 4, 2014 Glad your hunting them again Tim! You did that great thread on them so you need to continue your research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted February 16, 2017 Share #218 Posted February 16, 2017 Here is a 1937 document I just acquired to a USS Isabel sailor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share #219 Posted February 16, 2017 Very nice doc! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted February 19, 2017 Share #220 Posted February 19, 2017 Love when this thread gets bumped. Great document Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweitkamp Posted February 20, 2017 Share #221 Posted February 20, 2017 There is a USMC medal group on EBay now with a 40 dated Soochow Creek medal which I've never seen before now--item 222414353851 . It sold with a BIN OF $850 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted February 20, 2017 Share #222 Posted February 20, 2017 Never heard of a 1940 version. Images don't seem too good, but I'm on a phone. Can someone post them here for longevity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emccomas Posted February 21, 2017 Share #223 Posted February 21, 2017 Pics from Ebay add for Soochow Creek 1940 medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emccomas Posted February 21, 2017 Share #224 Posted February 21, 2017 More pics from ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted February 21, 2017 Share #225 Posted February 21, 2017 Yup a 1940 version existed. Have not heard of one with a Marine bar before, but from the pictures looks good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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