5thwingmarty Posted January 9, 2020 Share #1 Posted January 9, 2020 Someone is selling what are supposed to be original Dieges & Clust dies for making Military Airplane Pilot / Senior Pilot wings. Sorry I cannot post the link. Only $15,000 OBO. Marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted January 9, 2020 Share #2 Posted January 9, 2020 saw it but 15,000.00 what could you possible do with it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustywings Posted January 10, 2020 Share #3 Posted January 10, 2020 Here you go Marty... ebay #114057156117: (And for the record, I don't know the identity of the seller and have no association with this listing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rathbonemuseum.com Posted January 10, 2020 Share #4 Posted January 10, 2020 What do you think was done with the Meyer dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted January 10, 2020 Share #5 Posted January 10, 2020 I’ve never seen a D & C wing of any kind. They must be rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thwingmarty Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted January 10, 2020 Thanks Russ for posting the photos. There is an example of a wing presumably made from these dies on Bob's ww2wings.com website in the between the wars section. It was/is Cliff Presley's wing, but Cliff thought these wings were all cast, not die stamped. I have heard that JoeW now has the Meyer dies. I don't know if he actually makes any die-stamped "museum quality replica" wings or if all his wings are cast copies. D & C made all three WWII pilot rating wings, and I have heard the basic pilot wing is actually the hardest to find. I don't have any D & C wings, but have seen some in a friend's collection and he does not have one of the basic wings. Although I think they are purported to be pre-war wings, I suspect many D & C wings may actually just be WWII or post WWII era wings as they are clutch back wings, and D & C appears to have made more hallmarked senior and command pilot wings than basic wings like Josten and Robbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-17Guy Posted January 10, 2020 Share #7 Posted January 10, 2020 as they are clutch back wings, Not 100%. I have a D&C Command Pilot Wing Badge like Cliff’s on Bob’s website, but in pin back. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thwingmarty Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted January 10, 2020 I stand corrected for my inference that all D & C wings were clutch back. There are photos of a D & C command pilot wing on Bob's site as well (also from Cliff P.) and that is also a clutch back wing. In any event all command pilot wings date to WWII at the earliest whether clutch back or pin back. Marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mghcal Posted January 11, 2020 Share #9 Posted January 11, 2020 I offered $250. He countered at $11k. I think I'm out lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffP Posted January 11, 2020 Share #10 Posted January 11, 2020 I offered $250. He countered at $11k. I think I'm out lol. Hummm, it must have been after you did because I also offered $250 and have received a counter offer for $7,999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwnorma Posted January 11, 2020 Share #11 Posted January 11, 2020 Cliff, Nice to see you back! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mghcal Posted January 27, 2020 Share #12 Posted January 27, 2020 The Command Pilot version is now up for sale too. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dieges-Clust-Negative-Steel-Die-Mold-Cast-Military-USAAF-PILOT-Badge-w-Laurel/114087248831?hash=item1a902143bf:g:GfkAAOSwJFVeLykE&autorefresh=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocsfollowme Posted January 27, 2020 Share #13 Posted January 27, 2020 I read your post and followed the auction. I received an offer for $4,500 for the initial die. Pretty cool item. $4,490 more than I have in my wallet currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thwingmarty Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted January 27, 2020 The seller has a number of different Dieges & Clust jewelry dies they are listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted January 28, 2020 Share #15 Posted January 28, 2020 Only $15,000... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dieges-Clust-Negative-Steel-Die-Mold-Cast-Military-USAAF-PILOT-Badge-w-Laurel/114087248831?hash=item1a902143bf:g:GfkAAOSwJFVeLykE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskjl Posted January 28, 2020 Share #16 Posted January 28, 2020 They broke the die pattern in a couple of places, so that’s 15k for a pattern die that can’t ever be used for another strike. Hardly seems enough. great find, thanks for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted January 28, 2020 Share #17 Posted January 28, 2020 At least any restrikes would be easy to spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskjl Posted January 28, 2020 Share #18 Posted January 28, 2020 At least any restrikes would be easy to spot Too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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