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#1 cbuehler

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 01:21 PM

Anyone examined one of these yet? Apparently the Army has a new tropical uniform as well, with some design changes such as no breast pockets (?!).

Other than a lighter weight material, have the Marines made any design changes to the uniform?

 

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#2 SgtMaddoxUSMC

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:36 PM

What source are you citing?  I have not heard anything of this.



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Posted 12 December 2019 - 05:43 AM

What source are you citing?  I have not heard anything of this.

The Marine Corps Times. It has an article on them, but no specific details.  Apparently an order has been placed for some 2500 uniforms to start out with.

 

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 08:16 AM

Marine Corps Times has been writing about these since at least 2017 and at one point even said they'd be available in 2018. Here's a 2018 story:

 

https://www.marineco...ng-this-summer/



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Posted 12 December 2019 - 06:37 PM

Well, with regard to this matter, I have said it before and will say it again; unfortunately another waste of taxpayer money. With each service sporting their own cammies and now another sub variation. While it may be of interest to collectors such as us, just how necessary is this? 

The uniform provided should put personal protection, wear and utility before comfort. The current issue meets all criteria, including comfort if you have ever worn them.

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#6 kammo-man

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 07:45 PM

Ah so like the DPM tropical uniform.

One of thre best destined tropical uniforms ever........but they did it in the mid 1970s.



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Posted 12 December 2019 - 08:03 PM

Ah so like the DPM tropical uniform.
One of thre best destined tropical uniforms ever........but they did it in the mid 1970s.


Yeah, those UK military uniforms are pretty sweet. The desert DPM and MTP uniforms are really nice and functional.

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Posted 13 December 2019 - 04:19 AM

Well, with regard to this matter, I have said it before and will say it again; unfortunately another waste of taxpayer money. With each service sporting their own cammies and now another sub variation. While it may be of interest to collectors such as us, just how necessary is this? 

The uniform provided should put personal protection, wear and utility before comfort. The current issue meets all criteria, including comfort if you have ever worn them.

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Good morning.  I'm not wanting to be argumentative but I'm not quite understanding your point or logic.  Wouldn't / shouldn't uniforms be environmentally suitable as well as what you mention in regards to personal protection and wear? Can't we have all of the above as well as comfort? We all realize boots that are appropriate for the mountains of Afghanistan in winter aren't the boots to be wearing in a jungle/tropical environment. The same could be said about uniforms.  We do need to get back to a DoD wide camouflage pattern(s) amongst the services but I agree that would be of as much interest to collectors. Thanks and enjoy your day.  



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Posted 14 December 2019 - 04:02 AM

The Army version is in use isnt it? With the 25th ID?

https://www.armytime...eather-cammies/

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Posted 16 December 2019 - 03:16 PM

I think the only real advantage with these new tropical issue uniforms is that they dry faster. Comfort in the field would be more imaginary than real compared to the standard issue. When burdened with a load of equipment and in a steaming tropical environment you will be just as hot and sweaty, no matter what you are wearing. I found this out on some tough hikes in the Philippines exploring ww2 battlefields, and actually switched to wearing heavy HBT coveralls, leather boots and face covering for protection from vegetation, bugs and the sun.

Will remain in doubt regarding the real value to the soldier and taxpayer.

 

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Posted 16 December 2019 - 04:42 PM

I hate to mention it, but the problem of the entire US military's physical weight problem may be "weighing" in on these light tropical uniforms.

 

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Posted 16 December 2019 - 05:29 PM

The US military used a specialized jungle/tropical uniform throughout a large portion of the Vietnam War, when the standard issue uniform was the cotton sateen OG-107 shirt/pants. Worked pretty well back then, and I dont hear many complaints about that decision.

Edited by Longbranch, 16 December 2019 - 05:30 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2019 - 07:27 PM

I hate to mention it, but the problem of the entire US military's physical weight problem may be "weighing" in on these light tropical uniforms.

 

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Most of the 5 eyes countries and in particular their SOF/SOCOM units either have used or currently use a tropical combat uniform of some description now or are actively working towards a solution.

 

There are some uniform fabrics on the market that are breathable, have excellent transfer moisture, anti microbial and anti odor treatments and dry faster which all aids in comfort and reducing heat stress and are 1/2 - 3/4 of the weight of anything on the market currently.  

 

Having a specialist uniform for hot environments benefits the user in order for them to do their job better and that far outweighs the effort/cost implications.  



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Posted 24 December 2019 - 08:57 AM

Uniform is being tested in Hawaii right now


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