blitz67 Posted August 30, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 30, 2019 I found these today at a local sale, does anyone know what ADFSC Detachment Four is? I can't find anything. Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 31, 2019 Share #2 Posted August 31, 2019 ADFSC Automatic Data Field Systems Command. Here's a couple more, sew on pocket patch types that were on sale on Ebay a ways back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 31, 2019 Share #3 Posted August 31, 2019 https://asc.army.mil/docs/pubs/alt/archives/1967/Sep_1967.PDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake1941 Posted August 31, 2019 Share #4 Posted August 31, 2019 ADFSC Automatic Data Field Systems Command. Here's a couple more, sew on pocket patch types that were on sale on Ebay a ways back. s-l3ki0.jpg Adfsc.jpg Cant see the backs of these 2 but Ill bet they are fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted August 31, 2019 Share #5 Posted August 31, 2019 Those are very cool. Yes, the ones from eBay are reproductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz67 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted August 31, 2019 Here are the backs of mine. Also found these two Riverine pieces, I guess they are for plaques? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted August 31, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 31, 2019 How big are the riverine pieces, they could be Beret badges, about 2 inches around and slightly concave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 31, 2019 Share #8 Posted August 31, 2019 Those are very cool. Yes, the ones from eBay are reproductions. +1 I got suckered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 31, 2019 Share #9 Posted August 31, 2019 Cant see the backs of these 2 but Ill bet they are fake. +1 I got suckered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake1941 Posted August 31, 2019 Share #10 Posted August 31, 2019 +1 I got suckered That's ebay anymore probably 75 percent or more of the patches on there are junk listed under VN patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz67 Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted August 31, 2019 The Riverine pieces are brass discs, I think they are for putting on plaques. They are about 2 5/8" in diameter Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake1941 Posted August 31, 2019 Share #12 Posted August 31, 2019 Seems a little big for a beret or crest. They look like plaque pieces to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted August 31, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 31, 2019 Seems a little big for a beret or crest. They look like plaque pieces to me I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted September 1, 2019 Share #14 Posted September 1, 2019 The Riverine pieces are brass discs, I think they are for putting on plaques. They are about 2 5/8" in diameter Brad The MRF beret pieces are pretty large, oversized, for a beret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted September 1, 2019 Share #15 Posted September 1, 2019 The red patch above the upside down CIB looks to be captain rank for Spahis, (French) Army of Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz67 Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted September 2, 2019 Andrei, thanks for the info, it has the US soldiers name on the back, same guy the patches came from, I think its an ARVN rank tab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz67 Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted September 2, 2019 I think you are correct, one has one clutch post left, the other are broken off, definitely not for a plaque, thanks again for the help!! P.S. I just found one on Wartime Collectables website, appears to be for a pocket hanger The MRF beret pieces are pretty large, oversized, for a beret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted September 2, 2019 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2019 Andrei, thanks for the info, it has the US soldiers name on the back, same guy the patches came from, I think its an ARVN rank tab? Definitely not ARVN but a left over of the Indochina war. LTC Count Nicolas Roumiantzoff, 1st Régiment de Marche de Spahis Marocains, 1944. Your captain rank was used as chest rank for overalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted September 4, 2019 Share #19 Posted September 4, 2019 I would say the MRF discs are pocket hangers at 25/8th inches diameter especially if one had clutch back. See this auction. I don't believe they are plaque pieces https://www.ebay.com/itm/372743606195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteriousoozlefinch Posted September 7, 2019 Share #20 Posted September 7, 2019 Little more on the ADFSC https://books.google.com/books?id=xG-wtS15dWUC&lpg=PP113&ots=GW2UNshG6p&dq=Automatic%20Data%20Field%20Systems%20Command&pg=PP113#v=onepage&q&f=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeStevens Posted November 18, 2019 Share #21 Posted November 18, 2019 The MRF metal patches are to be worn the pocket. reason being is you can take it off and put it on the next jacket you get out of laundry. I Have seen them also worn on a beret and do own some. I have one on a plaque also with the pins grounded off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchman88 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22 Posted December 10, 2019 So the ones blitz posted 1st are original correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted December 10, 2019 Share #23 Posted December 10, 2019 Yes, the ones originally posted are originals. Within a week of him first posting them, the fakers in Vietnam had already started seller their copies of them on Ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchman88 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #24 Posted December 10, 2019 Thanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer123v Posted May 3, 2021 Share #25 Posted May 3, 2021 ADFSC was the US Army's Automatic Data Field System Command, based at Ft Bevoir, VA. Detachement Four, of which I was an original member, was established at Ist Log Command HQ just outside Tan Son Nhut AB in August 1965. It was a small team, 2 officers and about 10 enlisted members, whose mission was to introduce the use of NCR500 computers at Direct Support (DS) and General Support (GS) units throughout VN. Maj Clemon Wesley, SigC, was its first CO. The computers were used to automate the tracking and ordering of various supplies. Because we weren't authorized to wear AMC, CDC, or 1st Log shoulder insignia, I designed the pocket patch to establish some sort of identity. Many units did the same, as I recall. ADFSC was part of both AMC (Army Material Command) and CDC (Combat Development Command) so those organizations' insignias are included in the design. The upward pointing sword was borrowed from the MACV and USARV insignias. The overall shape of the patch is representative of the NCR500's magnetic card storage. The brown horizontal stripes in the lower right represent the magnetic stripes on the cards that were used to store data on various items, perhaps an exhaust manifold gasket for a truck engine. This was how the cards were shown in NCR documentation for the computers. The patch on the right looks like the one I still have, so was probably one of the originals we had made. The one on the left is probably from a batch made after I DEROS'd in 1967. I don't recall seeing any with a leather strap hanger. I'll bet there aren't too many of these pocket patches left. Tom H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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