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what a shame to see all these items being listed one by one on separate auctions:

 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/Militaria/13956/m.html?item=273947175176&hash=item3fc8862908%3Ag%3Agg4AAOSwd8hdPcza&_ssn=junkhunterjerry

 

nice grouping to a Colonel - and all uniforms stripped of insignia... all items sold separate... hats, pants, uniforms...:(

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Saw these listings a couple days ago, people like him give me a sick feeling deep down. I hope someone with deep enough pockets and a better appreciation for history will win most of the lots. You can even tell which uniforms had insignia that he stripped just to make more money. A whole history of service spanning two world wars split up because of greed and ignorance.

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With all due respect, and we have similar topics on the forum regularly, those items belong to the seller to do with what they please.

 

Calling them greedy, or making other personal judgments - in my opinion - is inappropriate.

 

It comes down to priorities, and just because theirs may be different than someone elses does not make them wrong.

 

If the goal is to make as much profit as possible, they are likely taking the best approach.

 

If it is to preserve history, whatever that means, maybe / maybe not?

 

One could argue that by splitting up the group, they are giving more people an opportunity to own pieces of it - thereby propagating the history more broadly. Who decided for everybody else that keeping groups intact is right?

 

Have you ever sold an identified / named item for more than you paid? Is that greed? If not, where is the line?

 

Who knows, maybe the seller saved it from the landfill, at which point they should be commended.

 

And let me be clear, I have no idea who the seller is; I just think this knee-jerk judgment on what people do with their property sounds eerily familiar to the proposed PH legislation that we so strongly oppose. And, if we only support a viewpoint when it favors us, that is a separate matter.

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With all due respect, and we have similar topics on the forum regularly, those items belong to the seller to do with what they please.

Calling them greedy, or making other personal judgments - in my opinion - is inappropriate.

It comes down to priorities, and just because theirs may be different than someone elses does not make them wrong.

If the goal is to make as much profit as possible, they are likely taking the best approach.

If it is to preserve history, whatever that means, maybe / maybe not?

One could argue that by splitting up the group, they are giving more people an opportunity to own pieces of it - thereby propagating the history more broadly. Who decided for everybody else that keeping groups intact is right?

Have you ever sold an identified / named item for more than you paid? Is that greed? If not, where is the line?

Who knows, maybe the seller saved it from the landfill, at which point they should be commended.

And let me be clear, I have no idea who the seller is; I just think this knee-jerk judgment on what people do with their property sounds eerily familiar to the proposed PH legislation that we so strongly oppose. And, if we only support a viewpoint when it favors us, that is a separate matter.

Agree 100%

 

Not everyone is into collecting groupings, and a lot of groupings do not sell well. Ive bought groupings before, kept what I wanted and sold the rest. I don’t have the room to keep uniforms or trunks of field items.

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As I have said before...the people who shout the loudest about breaking up large groups never seem to be around when one is being sold :) Seriously, large groups with a lot of similar/duplicate/run of the mill items are EXTREMELY hard to sell.

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As I have said before...the people who shout the loudest about breaking up large groups never seem to be around when one is being sold :) Seriously, large groups with a lot of similar/duplicate/run of the mill items are EXTREMELY hard to sell.

 

Definitely, but I think there are degrees of responsibility as well. To me there's a difference between selling off multiples / extras and still having a decent "one of everything" group, and splitting up every single piece as is the case here. And I've been on both sides of this issue, having massive groups where I can only really display one or two uniforms and storing the rest, as well as actively tracking down pieces to broken groupings and bringing them back together -- that's already happened to me three times this year.

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With all due respect, and we have similar topics on the forum regularly, those items belong to the seller to do with what they please.

 

Calling them greedy, or making other personal judgments - in my opinion - is inappropriate.

 

It comes down to priorities, and just because theirs may be different than someone elses does not make them wrong.

 

If the goal is to make as much profit as possible, they are likely taking the best approach.

 

If it is to preserve history, whatever that means, maybe / maybe not?

 

One could argue that by splitting up the group, they are giving more people an opportunity to own pieces of it - thereby propagating the history more broadly. Who decided for everybody else that keeping groups intact is right?

 

Have you ever sold an identified / named item for more than you paid? Is that greed? If not, where is the line?

 

Who knows, maybe the seller saved it from the landfill, at which point they should be commended.

 

And let me be clear, I have no idea who the seller is; I just think this knee-jerk judgment on what people do with their property sounds eerily familiar to the proposed PH legislation that we so strongly oppose. And, if we only support a viewpoint when it favors us, that is a separate matter.

 

 

Agree 100%

 

Not everyone is into collecting groupings, and a lot of groupings do not sell well. Ive bought groupings before, kept what I wanted and sold the rest. I don’t have the room to keep uniforms or trunks of field items.

 

 

As I have said before...the people who shout the loudest about breaking up large groups never seem to be around when one is being sold :) Seriously, large groups with a lot of similar/duplicate/run of the mill items are EXTREMELY hard to sell.

 

 

 

Definitely, but I think there are degrees of responsibility as well. To me there's a difference between selling off multiples / extras and still having a decent "one of everything" group, and splitting up every single piece as is the case here. And I've been on both sides of this issue, having massive groups where I can only really display one or two uniforms and storing the rest, as well as actively tracking down pieces to broken groupings and bringing them back together -- that's already happened to me three times this year.

 

I certainly see the issue. My main aggravation is that he has separated everything possible into its own listing. I understand that not everyone is historically or conservation minded and would opt for the more profitable route when it comes to large groupings, but the extent that this guy has gone to seems rather extreme. I would think that if one had to break up a group they would organize the items by era or perhaps put together smaller groups that do a decent job of representing the service of the individual. Either option certainly looks possible here and the seller would still make a good, if not better profit. I have 8 footlockers worth of uniforms, insignia and everything else to one officer and have considered how I would sell it if I ever wanted to. None of the options are easy but it would be possible, but it certainly wouldn't look like what this seller has done.

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I looked at what they have listed most collectors dont have the room for 6-10 pieces of headgear from one grouping. At least the seller tried to keep some of the history and name with the grouping

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With all due respect, and we have similar topics on the forum regularly, those items belong to the seller to do with what they please.

 

Calling them greedy, or making other personal judgments - in my opinion - is inappropriate.

 

It comes down to priorities, and just because theirs may be different than someone elses does not make them wrong.

 

If the goal is to make as much profit as possible, they are likely taking the best approach.

 

If it is to preserve history, whatever that means, maybe / maybe not?

 

One could argue that by splitting up the group, they are giving more people an opportunity to own pieces of it - thereby propagating the history more broadly. Who decided for everybody else that keeping groups intact is right?

 

Have you ever sold an identified / named item for more than you paid? Is that greed? If not, where is the line?

 

Who knows, maybe the seller saved it from the landfill, at which point they should be commended.

 

And let me be clear, I have no idea who the seller is; I just think this knee-jerk judgment on what people do with their property sounds eerily familiar to the proposed PH legislation that we so strongly oppose. And, if we only support a viewpoint when it favors us, that is a separate matter.

Of course Blacksmith. Seller even can throw all of these things to the fireplace. Why not? World is free....

 

 

 

 

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Perhaps we need to make a law about it?

 

That would clear things up.

 

But I doubt that would happen because the vast majority have no idea what this is about or even care to know.

 

Groupings are my thing but boy are they hard to sell.

 

I’ve sold hundreds and hundreds of groups and at one time i had over 1000 in my collection.

 

I have no qualm how they are sold.

 

In the old days I don’t remember anyone collecting groups I was the only one.

 

I sold plenty to military dealers who split them up that’s what you did.

 

Like patch collectors removing patches from uniforms.

 

The argument needs to transition from judgements to reasons that change minds.

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