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#176 sigsaye

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 08:43 AM

My uncle made Chief in 1943. He loved the Grays! Most of the guys he knew did also. Many, who already had khaki chose to stay with khaki because they didnt want to spend the money to replace what they had. My uncle said that, The Army and Marines wore khaki, who wants to look like them?

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 09:23 AM

 

Very true! The details of the hats slipped my mind (a good reason not to post when tired and awaiting a medical test :lol: )

 

I also forgot to add, where the "undress" combination cap was appropriate, a garrison cap of the corresponding color could be substituted.

 

King liked to tinker with uniforms. When he was COMCARDIV he made officers wear whites on top with blue trousers and black shoes in warm weather. It was not popular, but when he became CNO he made it official as Service Dress E. I don't think I've ever seen a picture of that combination in the wild.
 
He also had his own unique whites, basically a white version of a khaki or gray jacket, with a white shirt and black tie.


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Posted 16 September 2019 - 12:45 PM

USNR named Officer (no boards) with USNR Bullion breast eagle

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 12:48 PM

USNR Bullion Eagle, another winter weight Clothcraft by the Joseph & Feiss Company

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 02:38 PM

That embroidered breast badge is great! The boards would have been interesting, this officer was probably wearing the uniform in merchant service. The USN regs of the day were very clear that the merchant marine reserve insignia "shall not be worn with the naval uniform."

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 02:48 PM

That's my thinking too, that this is a USMS uniform and would have had Merchant Marine boards.



#182 David Minton

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 09:39 AM

That's my thinking too, that this is a USMS uniform and would have had Merchant Marine boards.


It has USN buttons though.

I’m looking for some gray USMS gray boards myself. I have USN, USCG, and USPHS.


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Posted 05 October 2019 - 11:02 AM

It has USN buttons though.


True, but I doubt anybody would have given a second thought to a reservist MM officer wearing his navy jacket and not bothering to change the buttons.

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 11:01 AM

USCG Boards - LCDR - LT - ENS

 

 

 

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 11:02 AM

USN LCDR Chaplain Boards

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 11:07 AM

CPO Carpenters Mate full with grey shirt, tie and combination hat - old photos, I'll add new ones later on (I've also have his khakis and blues)

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 02:19 PM

USN LT(MC) Dentist (pinback leaves are Hilborn-Hamburger)

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 02:22 PM

Australian made Greys (old photos, sold this one years ago)

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 02:27 PM

USN button up trousers, 1944 Naval Clothing Factory

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 10:52 AM

Participants of the TRIDENT Conference on the lawn of the White House on May 24, 1943. Admiral King can be seen wearing the gray uniform in contrast to the other three American officers all wearing khaki.
 
The photo caption reads: "The president and prime minister with their Combined Chiefs of Staff at the White House on May 24, 1943, the last day of the TRIDENT conference. Standing from left to right: Field Marshal Sir John Dill, the senior British officer stationed in Washington; Lieutenant General Sir Hastings L. “Pug” Ismay, chief of staff to Churchill; Air Chief Marshal Sir Charles F.A. Portal, chief of the British air staff; General Sir Alan Brooke, chief of the Imperial General Staff; Admiral Sir Dudley Pound, the British First Sea Lord; Admiral William D. Leahy, Roosevelt’s chief military adviser; General George C. Marshall, the U.S. Army chief of staff; Admiral Ernest J. King, the U.S. chief of naval operations; Lieutenant General Joseph T. McNarney, an Army Air Forces pilot who served as Marshall’s deputy chief of staff. The senior AAF commander, General H.H. “Hap” Arnold, spent the conference in the hospital for treatment of a heart condition.”
 

 

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 11:35 AM

Fleet Admiral Ernest J. King arriving at his headquarters for the Potsdam Conference - July 15, 1945. Those rank boards he is wearing would have to be among the rarest of rare, I would think.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 11:36 AM

The staff officers of Fleet Admiral Ernest J. King, U. S. Navy, ascend steps to their quarters near the "Little White House" (residence of President Harry S. Truman during the Potsdam Conference) in Babelsburg, Germany. Left front, Vice Admiral G. M. Cooke, Jr. Chief of Staff for Cominch; right front, Rear Admiral H. L. Naples of the Military Mission to Moscow; left rear, Captain A. S. McDill, aide-de-camp to Cominch; and right rear, Commander E. J. Gough, Medical Corps, U. S. Naval Reserve.

 

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 11:59 AM

Interesting that in the previous two photos all of the officers are wearing gold chin straps on their combination covers, rather than black.



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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:04 PM

This topic is great. I am fascinated by King and am currently reading master of Sea Power. Very complex man. I really like the gray uniform. It is amazing how many people have no knowledge of this uniform.

 

Anyway below is a pair of Ensign shoulder boards I recently purchased.

 

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:44 PM

Admiral Ernest J. King (CNO/COMINCH), center, Admiral Chester W. Nimitz (CINPAC-POA), left, and Admiral William F. Halsey (COMSOPACFOR), right, at CINPAC HQ, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, 28 September 1943, when King held conferences there. 

 

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:48 PM

I don't have any details on when or where this was taken.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:57 PM

Admirals Raymond Spruance, Ernest King and Chester Nimitz and Army General Sanderford Jarmon somewhere in the Pacific. Note Admiral King is wearing his Naval Aviator wings on his pocket flap.

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Edited by seanmc1114, 22 October 2019 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:02 PM

Video footage of Admiral King wearing his gray uniform along with General Marshall

 

https://www.gettyima...otage/509674979



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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:03 PM

Video footage from the Quebec Conference shows Admiral William D. Leahy wearing the gray uniform

 

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:07 PM

Some less common gray shoulder boards. From left to right:

  • US Public Health Service
  • Unknown (possible manufacturing sample with NNC corps insignia)
  • Navy Nurse Corps
  • Medical Corps

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Edited by David Minton, 22 October 2019 - 01:08 PM.



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