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#101 ww1collector

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:01 AM

Well-the 2 grey shirts on the list posted by Terry K. would indicate that is the correct color shirt for the grey uniform. Now I need one. Dave

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:36 PM

Well-the 2 grey shirts on the list posted by Terry K. would indicate that is the correct color shirt for the grey uniform. Now I need one. Dave

You're right, just went back and noticed you had a khaki shirt under there. I really hadn't noticed before.

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#103 Terry K.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 05:54 PM

Hi All,
Here are a couple of caps I have. One may be the aviators from the bill I posted, I can't remember, pi**es me off as I usually mark items or wright it down.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 01:48 PM

Waves gray officer hat

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 02:26 PM

Waves gray officer hat

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Jason

I beleive that is Navy Nurse Corps since WAVES Officers wore the same hats as the enlisted WAVES, just with Officer insignia.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 02:37 PM

Hi Steve,
Thanks I wasn't sure. I have a blue hat similar to this one, but it has the gold chin strap and the nnc and acorn insignia. I thought they wore that, but wasn't sure if that was changed later in the war.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 04:57 PM

Hi Steve,
Thanks I wasn't sure. I have a blue hat similar to this one, but it has the gold chin strap and the nnc and acorn insignia. I thought they wore that, but wasn't sure if that was changed later in the war.

Jason

I beleive they changed in 1944. This style hat was always NNC, just changed insignia.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 02:22 PM

I recently picked up a large lot of NOS WWII era naval insignia that included several of of these gray boards still in the boxes. Here are a few of the more unusual and nicer ones:
USCG Chief Warrant Officer, USPHS Captain (I know they had a different title, but don't have my books handy), USCG Captain, USN Line Captain.
Enjoy,
Vance

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:12 PM

I was just at the local antique store and they had a box full of Aviation Machinist Mate 3rd class ratings. They were dated on the back 1944 and still in the original cellophane. The box was original too and had a label on it with a contract number starting N140s. What would these patches go for? The shop was asking $5 each.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:26 AM

Here is a picture Admiral King in his grays, with a good look at the gray 5-star shoulder boards:

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The commander is ace submarine skipper Robert "Dusty" Dornin, note the four "lazy loops" of an aide to a four-star or higher officer. Note also that both officers have dispensed with the scrambled egg on the visors, a wartime measure which was authorized for all officers in service and working uniforms.

Another "war economy" initiative of King's was a black braid chinstrap for use in place of the gold. At a strategy conference in San Francisco, Admirals King and Nimitz emerged from a hotel, with raincoats over their blue uniforms. At the time, navy raincoats did not show any rank insignia, and King was wearing his cap with black chinstrap and plain visor. As the press moved in, a photographer shouldered the COMINCH-CNO aside, saying "Out of the way, chief, I want to get a shot of the admiral!" This may account for King wearing the gold chinstrap later in the war! (The anecdote is recounted in the biography of Chester Nimitz by E.B. Potter)

From: http://forum.uniform...9b701f08fed345d

My best,

Ricardo.

 

Here is a color picture of Admiral King in his grays standing in the background while General Marshall greets General De Gaulle at National Airport, Washington, D.C. - 1945, probably summer right after the Germans surrendered. I believe that is also General Arnold behind De Gaulle. It's looks like the Admiral is still wearing a black chinstrap but it could be gold and just obscured by the shadows.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:36 AM

Commanding Officer of the US Navy Air Base at Fort Lyantey in North Africa.

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:02 AM

US Navy Air Base in North Africa. A Lockheed Ventura search plane gets a swabbing down from ground crew after returning from anti-sub patrol from Port Lyautey.

 

Not being very familiar with Naval uniforms, are the sailors on the left wearing a gray work uniform of this pattern?

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:02 AM

German U-Boat, U-858, surrenders to US at rendezvous off Cape May, N.J., after being escorted there by DE's for 1000 miles. Cdr. J. Norfleet, USN (Ret.), (left) accepts surrender of German Sub Captain, Thile Bode, While in center is Lt. R.H. Brown, USNR, Interpreter on USS ATR-57. May 1945

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:05 AM

Following are various color modeled shots of the slate gray uniform and accessories

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:06 AM

More from the same source

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:07 AM

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:18 AM

Commanding Officer of the US Navy Air Base at Fort Lyantey in North Africa.

 

 

I notice his brown shoes...isn't that an aviation working green uniform?
 



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:22 AM

 

I notice his brown shoes...isn't that an aviation working green uniform?
 

 

Maybe. Not only do I know next to nothing about Navy uniforms, but I'm also half color blind.
 



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 12:49 PM

Here is a color picture of Admiral King in his grays standing in the background while General Marshall greets General De Gaulle at National Airport, Washington, D.C. - 1945, probably summer right after the Germans surrendered.


Marshall and King are wearing four stars, so it can't be '45.
 

I notice his brown shoes...isn't that an aviation working green uniform?


It is, and so is the first one in post # 114. Cool flag on his "flag plane!" Those are great images, thanks for posting them!

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:08 PM

Marshall and King are wearing four stars, so it can't be '45.

Justin B.

The source where I got the pictures indicated it was 1945. I wondered myself, but when I looked at Marshall's stars I thought they were the five General Of The Army stars with the U.S. crest above them. But on closer look, you are right, he is wearing four stars. Thanks.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:52 PM

US Navy Air Base in North Africa. A Lockheed Ventura search plane gets a swabbing down from ground crew after returning from anti-sub patrol from Port Lyautey.
 
Not being very familiar with Naval uniforms, are the sailors on the left wearing a gray work uniform of this pattern?

. I think those guys are wearing either OD coveralls or the very short lived OD dungarees. Like I've said several times, I much prefer the grays over the khakis and wish they had been retained with the khakis getting dumped

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 04:37 PM

This is a fascinating topic.
Thanks to all the contributors.
I hope that there will be more info and photos posted.
Shemp

#123 gunbunnyB/3/75FA

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 08:37 PM

just found this thread, loving it, here's hoping it gets more additions of info and pic's. -J



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:45 PM

Some more from the photo archives

 

Period Photo - Landing Craft School 1944 ATB Coronado, CA (San Diego)

 

Note the officer on the left in light greys including the proper chin strap and black buttons on his combination hat

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:47 PM

The old and the new

 

Coronado 1944

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