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#51 Salvage Sailor

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:42 PM

Also a tailored Winter Weight uniform, manufactured by the Halle Bros. Co., size short 37. The interior tag says Colthcraft clothes - the Joseph & Feiss Co. It also has a laundry tag. Sooner or later I'll figure out his correct name which is written on the interior pocket tag.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:44 PM

Rear & Interior

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:47 PM

It also has a Naval Uniform Service cap with a nicely worn USN LT bars. You can see the older holes on the cap where the Ensign & LT(JG) bar was attached before his promotion to LT. Something unique on this tailored uniform, the upper pocket flaps have false buttons, they only use snaps.

Who said grey's weren't worn in the Pacific? Look at these campaign stars. I've shown several Pacific uniforms and here is another one.

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Edited by Salvage Sailor, 09 August 2019 - 07:03 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:55 PM

This two-ocean war seadog is Lieutenant Commander Gilpatric.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:03 PM

American Campaign w/star, European & Mediterranean Campaign w/star, Victory Medal, and a newer (cleaner) American Defense & Asia-Pacific Campaign w/Star - all 1/2 inch pinbacks. His uniform has a laundy stamp in it from the USS ZEILIN (APA-3) which may have been his last Pacific assignment.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:09 PM

This well worn Summer Weight uniform is from the same manufacturer as MoMMC Stephenson's (see post 27 & 28) - Made by Haspel, New Orleans.

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Edited by Salvage Sailor, 10 January 2009 - 10:15 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:17 PM

Summer Weight interior, it gets hot in the tropics. His uniform also had his old LT boards in the pocket.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:20 PM

His faded hat has many, many nautical miles on it. Also a Naval Uniform Service hat, but not a L. Lewis & Son. This naval warrior wore the uniform proudly, but did not spend his seapay on custom tailoring.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:28 PM

Here is a selection of USN grey overseas caps.

From bottom to top (or right to left if you prefer)

1. LCDR Gilpatric's faded Naval Uniform Service, 7 1/4 (turned down to show fading)

2. J. B. Boyce, III, tag worn off, also turned down to show extensive fading

3. ENS F. D. Randall's, Naval Uniform Service, 7 1/4, L. Lewis & Son, New York

4. No Name, also Naval Uniform Service, 7 1/4, L. Lewis & Son, New York

5. No Name, No Manufacturers tag, size 7 tag

6. Same as above with different size 7 tag

8. LT(JG) E. B. Sydnor's tailored cap, tag worn out (but a swell custom job to go with his threads!)

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Edited by Salvage Sailor, 10 January 2009 - 10:33 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:42 PM

A Study in Grey? When is Grey, Gray or Slate Gray.....

There is no standard, the shades are lighter, darker, more blue, more drab.

To Illustrate (left fo right) :

1. MMC Summer Weight, Portlite Uniform

2. MoMMC Summer Weight, Hastings/Haspel, New Orleans

3. ENS Winter Weight, Browning, Fifth Avenue, New York

4. LT(JG) Winter Weight, John Wanamaker

5. LT(JG) USCG Winter Weight, Shulman & Co., Norfolk, VA

6. LT Winter Weight, The Halle Bros. Co.

7. LCDR Summer Weight, Haspel, New Orleans

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:44 PM

A closer color study

1. MMC Summer Weight, Portlite Uniform

2. MoMMC Summer Weight, Hastings/Haspel, New Orleans

3. ENS Winter Weight, Browning, Fifth Avenue, New York

4. LT(JG) Winter Weight, John Wanamaker

5. LT(JG) USCG Winter Weight, Shulman & Co., Norfolk, VA

6. LT Winter Weight, The Halle Bros. Co.

7. LCDR Summer Weight, Haspel, New Orleans

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:49 PM

It's much easier to see the differences in shades of gray when looking at the reverse sides.

Also, in reverse order (from Bottom to Top)

1. MMC Summer Weight, Portlite Uniform

2. MoMMC Summer Weight, Hastings/Haspel, New Orleans

3. ENS Winter Weight, Browning, Fifth Avenue, New York

4. LT(JG) Winter Weight, John Wanamaker

5. LT(JG) USCG Winter Weight, Shulman & Co., Norfolk, VA

6. LT Winter Weight, The Halle Bros. Co.

7. LCDR Summer Weight, Haspel, New Orleans

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 10:57 PM

Well, there ya go. The U. S. Navy's WWII experiment with Gray uniforms from 1943 to 1948. Tradition won out (thank goodness) and Khaki's, Blues & Whites (plus dungarees) ruled post-war the waves*


*Until the next crazy 1970's Vietnam era experiment with the ridiculous 'utility' & 'Ice Cream Vendor' (or doorman) uniforms took place. Another study in the making is called for, eh?

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 11:32 PM

It also has a Naval Uniform Service cap with a nicely worn USN LT bars. You can see the older holes on the cap where the Ensign & LT(JG) bar was attached before his promotion to LT. Something unique on this tailored uniform, the upper pocket flaps have false buttons, they only use snaps.


A corrected photo for post No. 53 ( I posted the coasties uniform)

Here is the LT's false buttons on the upper pocket flaps

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 07:49 AM

Here are some interesting boards - Chaplain and WO Torpedoman.
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 07:50 AM

Captain boards in original Vanguard box.


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Posted 11 January 2009 - 08:09 AM

Grey CPO jacket for an athletic instructor. This was given to me by the vet. He was in the Navy during WW2 and in less than 4 years made chief.
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 08:10 AM

close-up of rate

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 08:12 AM

Grey captain's hat.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 08:28 AM

Hi,

Please, my gray uniform was with wrong rank´s boards??


My best, Ricardo.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 02:39 AM

Here are some interesting boards - Chaplain and WO Torpedoman.
Kurt

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Wow, very nice. http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif I've never seen gray Warrant Officer's shoulder boards before.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:24 AM

Hi,

Please, my gray uniform was with wrong rank´s boards??
My best, Ricardo.

NO, many times, the correct gray boards were not available, so the boards from the khaki and white uniforms were worn. Same with the brass buttons, chin strap and cap badges. If the correct bronze ones were not available, the regular ones were used.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 10:20 AM

Thank you Steve!!

Best regards,

Ricardo.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 11:24 AM

Here's that usms gray uniform which came today. I was a little disappointed when it came because it has the navy buttons instead of the usms buttons.
I knew when buying this it had the the black or blue shoulder boards, which kind of makes sence if they didn't have the gray usms uniform they probably wouldn't have the gray usms shoulder boards. The one shoulder board had the one button replace with a navy one. I know this is a usms uniform, because the guy I bought this off of has his blue uniform also, with his info on it. This one has his name which is bearly readable. I know these shoulder boards don't below to the other uniform, because the insignia and rank is on the sleeve or cuff.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 11:28 AM

Here's that usms gray uniform which came today. I was a little disappointed when it came because it has the navy buttons instead of the usms buttons.
I knew when buying this it had the the black or blue shoulder boards, which kind of makes sence if they didn't have the gray usms uniform they probably wouldn't have the gray usms shoulder boards. The one shoulder board had the one button replace with a navy one. I know this is a usms uniform, because the guy I bought this off of has his blue uniform also, with his info on it. This one has his name which is bearly readable. I know these shoulder boards don't below to the other uniform, because the insignia and rank is on the sleeve or cuff.
Here's some pictures.

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On the left is a picture of his name written in the gray jacket.( It's had to make out, and my picture isn't the best) and on the right is a picture of a tag in his blue uniform.

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Jason


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