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M16 Sub caliber Training magazines


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Found these the other day and hadnt seen them before.I dont have the conversion Kit.

 

The seller said his dad had been in the Air Force and these were from that time period.

 

Found some info on line and figure they are mrore of a novelty collectible if you collect M16 accessories.

 

After Atchisson’s original .22 M16/AR-15 conversion proved successful, other designers, seeing the market potential of conversions, began to design their own similar device. A .22 conversion device developed at the Rock Island Arsenal was the work of Ronald Elbe. Colt, the manufacturer of the AR-15 and M16 rifles, offered their .22 conversion kit designed by Henry Into. There was also a .22 rimfire conversion designed by U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant Julius V. Jurek. The “Air Force” conversion had a rifled chamber insert, and was gas-operated. The 10-round magazines were made of white nylon. It was the only kit that locked the bolt open on the last shot. All of the kits were individually serial numbered.

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http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display. ... icles=3125

 

 

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I have one of the sub-caliber inserts for the .22. It's nomenclature is Conv. Kit: M261 over the serial number 126-40248. I have the magazines that go into the normal 20 round magazines as opposed to the white nylon magazines shown here. I've got plans to take the kit to the range in an AR-15 that I built some time ago to see how it works. BTW the Conversion Insert I have is somewhat different from the one you're showing. I'll try to get a picture up later.

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From another I was told the M261 and the one I posted are different.One source saud both used by Army and Air Force but other source said the white mags were Air Force only for the conversation unit and not compatible with the M261

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I knew a guy who had a .22 subcal and also a box of 50 rds in his ruck every time we went to Drum. he'd sit in an LP/OP and Pop Racoons at night. He also used Hoffman devices wired to telephone wire and a 9V and baited with MRE ham slices as Racoon Claymores

 

 

Dude HATED Drum Racoons

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I knew a guy who had a .22 subcal and also a box of 50 rds in his ruck every time we went to Drum. he'd sit in an LP/OP and Pop Racoons at night. He also used Hoffman devices wired to telephone wire and a 9V and baited with MRE ham slices as Racoon Claymores

 

 

Dude HATED Drum Racoons

Thats funny, coons are a major pita around here, wreck bird feeders. Medium size con a bear trap works well and no legal issue about discharging a firearm.

Any facts on which .22 rim fire conversion functions reliably?

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Doyle, on a related note, Iowa connection to these conversions, Ron Elbe and I went to High School together in Keokuk. I've got one of M-261's and couple of mag inserts, it functions fine in both my AR's, mag inserts are tough to fine.

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Doyle, on a related note, Iowa connection to these conversions, Ron Elbe and I went to High School together in Keokuk. I've got one of M-261's and couple of mag inserts, it functions fine in both my AR's, mag inserts are tough to fine.

 

George

 

sounds like a great kit.

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I believe the white magazines in the first post are Rodman conversion magazines, used by the Air Force. I used to see them for sale at swap meets and gun shows back in the 80's in Hawaii. I've seen a few since then, but remember seeing quite a few when they were actually in service.

 

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