25th ID First Pattern Subdued Variations, Vietnam

[thomasglover]

Hi All,

 

I've just purchased what I believe to be a US issue variation of the first pattern subdued 25th ID patch. Shown below on the left next to a definite US issue on the right.

The patch in question was advertised from a dissolved 1970s collection (of mostly USAF patches) as Vietnam locally made but I believe it to be US period manufactured. I just haven't seen this type yet (I've only had a few 25th ID first pattern subdued but with some variation).

The patch is removed from a uniform and has a gauze backing. It's a little longer than my issue one but I have seen this in other US issue variants. It also has a slight stiffening product (light glue or starch) applied to the gauze and doesn't seem to be like a repro.

 

Any thoughts on this one?

 

Thanks, Tom

 

[thomasglover]

And a pic of the reverse.

 

And for info I've been collecting (very much on and off) for a bit over 30 years but would greatly appreciate comments from other collectors.

 

[phillock]

Hi Thomas

 

Looks like a standard US made first pattern twill variation with the cheese cloth backing.

 

Note edging around the lightning bolt is another pointer.

 

I have a ranger tab and below 198th Lt Bde.

 

Phill

 

 

[phillock]

Here is a Japanese made 5th AF

 

Phill

 

[thomasglover]

The 198th is the only other one I’ve seen like this and they are very common. I’ve never seen a 25th ID like this before though OR any other infantry division SSI.

Anyone seen another of these anytime?

[thomasglover]

Thanks for the response btw, forgot to say that!

[thomasglover]

Anyone seen any other examples of these gauze-backed issue SSI, esp. infantry divisions?

[468abnarm]

Here are the only 3 (embroidered) that I have.

[Wake1941]

Great examples the 82nd is definitely foreign made