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#1 Pbaczuk

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:53 PM

This is a neat and well made patch for VMF 323. It is 5" in diameter.

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:54 PM

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:55 PM

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:56 PM

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:56 PM

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#6 Pbaczuk

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:57 PM

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 08:41 AM

This is apparently made well after WW2 since it has a merrow edge and maybe a reunion item. Designation changed to VMFA in 1964 so using commonly accepted date of late 60's for start of merrow edge use this has to be a reunion item made for collectors


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Posted 05 May 2019 - 09:16 AM

This is apparently made well after WW2 since it has a merrow edge and maybe a reunion item. Designation changed to VMFA in 1964 so using commonly accepted date of late 60's for start of merrow edge use this has to be a reunion item made for collectors


There were merrow edge patches made in WWII and the post-WWII era, albeit they werent as common. This one looks like it could be good to me. Is there a pigtail on the back?

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 09:33 AM

Hi friends, there is no pigtail on the back.

#10 Pbaczuk

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 09:38 AM

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 12:33 PM

Are you saying that this is a WW2 issue patch or even just post war? Our forum authority on the forum Walika and Millstein state that WW2 issue was a decal on leather.



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Posted 05 May 2019 - 12:54 PM

Mort is correct. Decal and leather was the only one used during ww2.

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 02:29 PM

Are you saying that this is a WW2 issue patch or even just post war? Our forum authority on the forum Walika and Millstein state that WW2 issue was a decal on leather.


Dont think its WWII but it looks like it could be late 40s-mid 50s

#14 Pbaczuk

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 02:34 PM

Yeah, I believe post WW2 but how how long after?

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 02:35 PM

Koran war perhaps?

#16 mortaydc60

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 06:37 PM

this was made no earlier than 1970 for sure and most likely later than that from construction and art work detail. blacklight the patch and bet it glows.


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Posted 09 May 2019 - 03:04 AM

Mules book states it is from 1962, just before they changed to VMFA. His book is not always correct to vintage but I think in this case it probably is. I dont see any reason that this patch cant be from the early 60s.

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 10:38 AM

highly doubt from early 60's based on fact it has a marrow edge,the art work looks period 80-90's as well as the construction. really think it is attempt to be passed off as early patch and imho it is  not investment grade.



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Posted 09 May 2019 - 10:59 AM

I don't see why this couldn't be a VMF-323 patch from the 1950's or early 60's. There are plenty of examples of patches from that era that have merrow edges. Just out of curiosity, what's the patch to the left of the VMF one?

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 11:19 AM

I don't see why this couldn't be a VMF-323 patch from the 1950's or early 60's. There are plenty of examples of patches from that era that have merrow edges. Just out of curiosity, what's the patch to the left of the VMF one?


Just saw the patch in your other post. Nice group!

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 01:49 PM

I am sorry but can not let this incorrect information go unchallenged. There are not plenty of patches in the 1950's and early 60's with merrow edged. There was only a handful during WW2 and they were a different type of marrow edge. It is commonly accepted that use of the current style merrow edge did not start until 1968 roughly.



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Posted 09 May 2019 - 03:34 PM

Here are links to just a few examples on the forum:

http://www.usmilitar...+merrowed +edge
http://www.usmilitar...dron-seventeen/
http://www.usmilitar...ctus-air-force/
http://www.usmilitar...-vt-5-torpcats/
http://www.usmilitar...uadron-patches/

#23 Pbaczuk

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 06:41 PM

The other patch is a much later... backing, construction and all... Navy VS-24 anti submarine squadron patch.

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Posted 11 May 2019 - 04:02 PM

Thought forum might like to see Korean era patches of unit. The VMA unit is from June 1952 era and Japanese made  quilted and bullion example and the other appears to be Japanese made also.

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#25 Pbaczuk

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 11:46 AM

Oh yeah! Great! Thanks for showing.


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