P-59A Posted April 7, 2019 Share #1 Posted April 7, 2019 This was a swap[ meet find. I think it's a hesh round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted April 7, 2019 In side projectile The head stamp reads 105MM M14, LOT IVI-2-14. On the other side of the primer are the numbers 1969. The primer reads 4-69-S17 201M28B2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted April 7, 2019 Share #3 Posted April 7, 2019 Please help me out here - what is a hesh round? High explosive something? Thanks. Neat item in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted April 7, 2019 Example of the spalling damage caused by HESH. High-explosive squash head (HESH) is a type of explosive ammunition that is effective against tank armour and is also useful against buildings. It was fielded chiefly by the British Army as the main explosive round of its main battle tanks during the Cold War. It was also used by other military forces, particularly those that acquired the early post-World War 2 British 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A1, including Germany, India, Israel and Sweden. In the United States, it is known as HEP, for "high explosive, plastic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted April 7, 2019 Share #5 Posted April 7, 2019 Thanks for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted April 8, 2019 Share #6 Posted April 8, 2019 The US does not use HESH, they use HEP and they are tank gun rounds. Yours appears to be stuck in a 105mm howitzer case, it needs to go in a full length tank gun case. Very careful examination of the area just above the projectile forward driving band you should find an M393 marking, it will be faint. Also, the projectile will be seated in depth to the middle of the driving band ( in other words- when sitting in the proper case, the upper most driving band only will be visible). The correct cases are harder to find, they come in steel and brass...I have a few sitting around somewhere and they are correctly ink marked M393.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted April 8, 2019 Share #7 Posted April 8, 2019 Data sheet: http://bulletpicker.com/cartridge_-105mm-hep-t_-m393a2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted April 8, 2019 Share #8 Posted April 8, 2019 Pic of a few in the M60 turret, the Abrams M1 tank older 105mm used same ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted April 8, 2019 Share #9 Posted April 8, 2019 Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted April 8, 2019 these are the only stamps I can find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted April 8, 2019 Share #11 Posted April 8, 2019 The correct brass casing is an " M150", very different from the other 105mm tank cases due to the way it is crimped. The one I have m393A1 marking was very hard to find, I found it only when I stripped all the paint off for a repaint/stencil job, barely visible about an inch above the most forward driving band. They are a very impressive round when sitting in the correct case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted April 23, 2019 Share #12 Posted April 23, 2019 Here is what your HEP-T M393 round takes for a case, an M150 model. Notice the size compared to your howitzer case. A very heavy piece of brass. I pulled a few cases out to inventory them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted April 23, 2019 Share #13 Posted April 23, 2019 Headstamp markings. Inked for the M393 HEP, M68 tank gun, very hard to find with the ink markings for your projectile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted April 23, 2019 WOW! No kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted April 23, 2019 Share #15 Posted April 23, 2019 Just for comparison, notice the M103 Heavy tank casing used mostly by the Marines ( thru the 70's). It is 120mm ( the black cone shaped object is the AP projectile), the case is a massive 33 in tall. Notice the painted 105mm HEP in the background, OD with black stripe. ( a refinished M393 like yours could be) the M103 case is almost as tall as the 105mm HEP round. 120mm casings are sought after in the collector world. The blue 120mm on the left is an Abrahms 120mm target practice HEAT round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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