colt thompson Posted February 4, 2019 Share #1 Posted February 4, 2019 Curious if these are WW2 vintage or Vietnam . Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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917601 Posted February 4, 2019 Share #3 Posted February 4, 2019 Just my opinion using the Ordnance branch non corrosive ammo chart ( 12 gauge is not listed). The high number lot number (22,000) appears to be used post 1953 manufacture used in all Winchester ammo, .30, .45. .50 cal, etc. Wichester was not a large manufacturer of ammo in WW2 because of all the other plants that were started up for WW2. After the war time plants were shut down, ( they had huge surpluses for years to come) and surpluses were dwindled down, WRA renter end the ammo market. That said, 12 gauge brass , especially Winchester marked is a great, sought after item with cartridge collectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted February 4, 2019 Share #4 Posted February 4, 2019 Note the chart, I suspect Winchester started with the lot number "20,000 " forward to signify non corrosive primers used in all their ammo after the early 50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt thompson Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted February 4, 2019 Great information Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine0311 Posted February 5, 2019 Share #6 Posted February 5, 2019 A bit of a follow up question: what type of powder was used with military buckshot loads during WW1? Unless Im mistaken smokeless shotgun powders were lagging for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverplate Posted February 5, 2019 Share #7 Posted February 5, 2019 Your box is WWII mid-war production. The Winchester lot number series starting with 24000 was assigned in 1940 to commercially-produced shotgun shells. The early brass shells were used mainly for prison guard use where rounds had to be constantly loaded and unloaded, causing the paper cased shells to break down. "00" buck in paper hulls was the standard combat load until early 1944 when Ordnance requested brass shells as a replacement for the paper hulls that wouldn't hold up under severe weather conditions. In early 1945 the all-brass M19 round was approved for overseas use and the paper shells reserved for use in non-combat areas.The brass shells produced during WWII used fast burning smokeless powder. Your box with shells is a desirable collectible and not often found anymore. Here is the final all-brass round produced during WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt thompson Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted February 5, 2019 Your box is WWII mid-war production. The Winchester lot number series starting with 24000 was assigned in 1940 to commercially-produced shotgun shells. The early brass shells were used mainly for prison guard use where rounds had to be constantly loaded and unloaded, causing the paper cased shells to break down. "00" buck in paper hulls was the standard combat load until early 1944 when Ordnance requested brass shells as a replacement for the paper hulls that wouldn't hold up under severe weather conditions. In early 1945 the all-brass M19 round was approved for overseas use and the paper shells reserved for use in non-combat areas.The brass shells produced during WWII used fast burning smokeless powder. Your box with shells is a desirable collectible and not often found anymore. Here is the final all-brass round produced during WWII. I'm surprised that it is considered desirable in this condition, Any opinion on value? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverplate Posted February 6, 2019 Share #9 Posted February 6, 2019 What makes it desirable is that the label is intact and all shell casings present. The shells offset the torn box, but I think it could safely fetch $100-$150 to the right buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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