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#1 Pip

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:07 PM

I usually collect only paper but there was not a lot of paper at this sale to buy so I bought some uniforms and patches and such. I am trying to figure out if these are Vietnam Era items? The sale stated he was a Chaplain during Vietnam but not a lot more info. The last picture is what was shown for the sale but when I got there the uniform seems to be missing a lot of what was on the photo. Here is what I got

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:08 PM

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:08 PM

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:09 PM

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:10 PM

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:11 PM

This is the photo from the listing. It looks different than the one I got?

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:31 PM

The ribbons you have on the floor could have been the ones the seller had on the uniform since there are the racks next to them. Some ribbons look missing as well as the black name-tag which that I do not know why. 



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:36 PM

I got there a couple hours after it started. Maybe someone took them off or this is a completely different jacket. Now that I am home he had some priestly looking robes and sashes that might have been military that I guess I should have bought also now that I am looking on the internet at Chaplain stuff. 



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:42 PM

Most likely they were taken off because there appears to be pin holes as to where the ribbons and name-tag would be.



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:45 PM

Are all these items Vietnam era?



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 01:56 PM

These are the robes that are there 

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 02:43 PM

Interesting. Is the beret maroon? I was in the 1/17th Cav, 82nd Airborne in the 70's, I wore the maroon beret with that beret flash, but our red / white flash had our unit insignia on it ( 1/17th Cav), The 1/17th Cav to this day is still attached to the 82nd. Something is amiss I believe. See the 1/17th Cav unit insignia, it belongs on that beret flash. image.jpeg image.jpeg

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 02:46 PM

The beret is Black, should it be maroon?



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 02:55 PM

The beret is Black, should it be maroon?

Not an expert, but as I said that red/white flash belongs to the 1/17th Cav, which has since the 50's been attached to the 82nd Airborne Division which wears a maroon beret. Black berets have been worn by Rangers for ever, until the Army gave every swinging dic? a beret.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 02:56 PM

This is the sale https://www.estatesales.net/TN/Hixson/37343/2099049 

 

Maybe he stole it from someone?



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:25 PM

You grabbed my interest, I researched the flash and black beret question. I found this:

"Other beret flashes began to appear in the 1970s when the US Army's armored cavalry regiments in Germany began wearing black berets with maroon and white cloth ovals behind their DUIs, to the left of the wearer's rank insignia (i.e. over their left temple).[16][18] By 1979, the US Army put a stop to the use of berets by conventional forces.[16"

So, from I have learned, the red white flash is a Cav color flash, officers wore their rank on it, enlisted ( me) wore our unit insignia on it. Noticing the Armored Div patch, and citing Wiki, yours is a correct combination....learn something new everyday.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:26 PM

I had a feeling he didnt steal it



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:31 PM

Thanks for looking that up also! Do you know if those robes are military robes?



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Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

His obituary says "He was assigned to the 30th Armored Division of the Army National Guard of Tennessee. At the time of his retirement, after 20 years of military service, he was serving as Regimental Chaplain of the 278th Armored Cavalry Regiment"




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