Anyone have Navy Armed Guard original WWII patches? I'd like to see a picture . . .

[stratasfan]

I'm trying to find pictures of some original WWII patches in this style . . .

 

 

Looking to see if there is a plain embroidered versoin, but would be interested in seeing leather painted or bullion. Did this come in embroidered style, do you think?

 

Thanks for any help!

Elizabeth

[stratasfan]

Still interested if anyone has one they'd share a picture of!

[Blacksmith]

Hi E - heres a link to at least a bullion one, and some discussion on the same:

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/261764-wwii-us-navy-naval-armed-guard-veteran-bullion-patch/

 

Consensus was that it was a Pakistani repro, but a reference at least.

[stratasfan]

Thanks! So far, that is all I've found too. Someone selling it on eBay still. I'm really trying to find pictures of WWII-era ones, and so far not succeeding at all. Am beginning to wonder if they even had them back then.

[stratasfan]

Thought I would share this for reference! I haven't been able to find any original WWII insignia! Finally, I contacted a man who served in the USNAG during WWII and he explained it:

THERE WERE NO PATCHES ALLOWED ON ON UNIFORMS. A PICTURE AS I HAD PATCHES MADE FOR THE AG PHOTO
I LOCATED AS TAKEN FROM AN AG BOOK OF GUNNERS AT CAMP SHELTON, VA. BY ME. THE INSIGNIA WAS ALSO
USED ON ITEMS SOLD AT THE AG CENTER IN BROOKLYN ON CIGARETTE LIGHTERS, STATIONARY, ETC. WHETHER AT
NEW ORLEANS OR TREASURE ISLAND SHIPPING AND RECEIVING STATION, I DON'T KNOW

INSIGNIA WERE NOT ALLOWED ON NAVY UNIFORMS DUE TO SOME IDIOTIC LAW; IF SHIP SUNK AND IT DISTINGUISHED
HIM FROM (MERCHANT MERCHANT MARINE) HE COULD BE " LEGALLY" DECLARED AN ENEMY AND BE KILLED." ALSO,
I CHANGED THE WORDING ON IT FROM" USN ARMED GUARD SCHOOL" LEAVING OFF SCHOOL TO "ARMED GUARD VETERANS"

AND ON EACH SIDE OF OUR MOTTO "WE AIM TO DELIVER", I PUT "OUR MOTTO" ON THE LEFT SIDE. "WE DID". ON THE RIGHT.
IF I CAN FIND THE BOOK AND BOOK COVER , I WILL E-MAIL IT TO YOU.

MY BROTHER SAID HE HAD ' USN ARMED GUARD' EMBROIDERED ON HIS WRIST ARM CUFF WHERE RANK IS SHOWN AND WAS
MADE TO TAKE THEM OFF DUE TO REASON ABOVE.

[P-40Warhawk]

Hi very interesting, great reply you got regarding the patch.

 

I have never seen anything on a WWII USN uniform that distinguished the wearer as Armed Guard. They had standard USN issue uniforms and no special insignia was authorized that I know of.

[29navy]

In March of 1943, the members of the Armed Guard were authorized to wear sleeve insignia that consisted of the block letters "AG". However, In April 1943, that order was rescinded. So the odds of finding a jumper with the AG is probably non existent. (found this picture online)

[P-40Warhawk]

In March of 1943, the members of the Armed Guard were authorized to wear sleeve insignia that consisted of the block letters "AG". However, In April 1943, that order was rescinded. So the odds of finding a jumper with the AG is probably non existent. (found this picture online)

 

I totally forgot about that! Yes the odds seem slim that there are any uniforms out there with it, but I have seen a lot of PT guys who continued to wear the original 'PT' mark on the lower sleeve even well past the date it was done away with and replaced with the PT shoulder patch. So it is possible there is one out there someplace.

[Dave]

 

Thought I would share this for reference! I haven't been able to find any original WWII insignia! Finally, I contacted a man who served in the USNAG during WWII and he explained it:

THERE WERE NO PATCHES ALLOWED ON ON UNIFORMS. A PICTURE AS I HAD PATCHES MADE FOR THE AG PHOTO

I LOCATED AS TAKEN FROM AN AG BOOK OF GUNNERS AT CAMP SHELTON, VA. BY ME. THE INSIGNIA WAS ALSO

USED ON ITEMS SOLD AT THE AG CENTER IN BROOKLYN ON CIGARETTE LIGHTERS, STATIONARY, ETC. WHETHER AT

NEW ORLEANS OR TREASURE ISLAND SHIPPING AND RECEIVING STATION, I DON'T KNOW

 

INSIGNIA WERE NOT ALLOWED ON NAVY UNIFORMS DUE TO SOME IDIOTIC LAW; IF SHIP SUNK AND IT DISTINGUISHED

HIM FROM (MERCHANT MERCHANT MARINE) HE COULD BE " LEGALLY" DECLARED AN ENEMY AND BE KILLED." ALSO,

I CHANGED THE WORDING ON IT FROM" USN ARMED GUARD SCHOOL" LEAVING OFF SCHOOL TO "ARMED GUARD VETERANS"

 

AND ON EACH SIDE OF OUR MOTTO "WE AIM TO DELIVER", I PUT "OUR MOTTO" ON THE LEFT SIDE. "WE DID". ON THE RIGHT.

IF I CAN FIND THE BOOK AND BOOK COVER , I WILL E-MAIL IT TO YOU.

 

MY BROTHER SAID HE HAD ' USN ARMED GUARD' EMBROIDERED ON HIS WRIST ARM CUFF WHERE RANK IS SHOWN AND WAS

MADE TO TAKE THEM OFF DUE TO REASON ABOVE.

 

 

 

Looks like your reply came from "CA". He's quite a character and can talk your leg off if you ever get on the phone with him. Sadly, when he passes, most of the knowledge of the Armed Guard will pass with him...