RememberThe5thESB Posted December 5, 2018 Share #1 Posted December 5, 2018 So, I'm in the middle of making a impression more or less of a early WW2, Africa campaign USGI uniform. I've got most all the stuff sorted out for the time period, but I was wondering, were 1st and 2nd pattern hawleys commonplace that early in the war? Or would it be fair to say low or high pressure liners would be found by then? (I'm talking somewhere around the Kasserine Pass time period to be more exact.) Any info or help would be great, thanks! Sent from my SM-J327V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus6 Posted December 5, 2018 Share #2 Posted December 5, 2018 At this point, Hawley and or Low pressure would be your best bet. The low pressures were common at this point as well. I have a SC that was worn by a 2nd Armored Officer as they hit the coast. Peg6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john k Posted December 5, 2018 Share #3 Posted December 5, 2018 You used the word "impression". Is this for re-enacting or display? I ask because any Hawley is going to be pretty darn delicate after 77 years, and probably wouldn't hold up to any actual use very well at all. If you are going to wear or use it in anyway, would you consider a reproduction of some sort? I saw a decent looking repro on ebay just the other day for not too terribly much $$. Or maybe pick up a really trashed low pressure liner and send it for restoration? Don't get me wrong, anything repro in my collection would drive my crazy, but I also would not want to destroy something relatively rare, delicate and historically relevant. (that and they do tend to be pricey). Just my two cents, good luck with whatever you end up doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberThe5thESB Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted December 6, 2018 I didnt mean that! Haha, sorry, I would like to reenact but I'd never ever wear a true Hawley in one. They are far too delicate! And I saw that repro too, it's got about 3 days left.. It's already at $158. Which is sadly out of my price range. My bad for the confusion with the wording! Sent from my SM-J327V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john k Posted December 6, 2018 Share #5 Posted December 6, 2018 I didnt mean that! Haha, sorry, I would like to reenact but I'd never ever wear a true Hawley in one. They are far too delicate! And I saw that repro too, it's got about 3 days left.. It's already at $158. Which is sadly out of my price range. My bad for the confusion with the wording! Sent from my SM-J327V using Tapatalk No worries, just trying to help. $158 IS getting a bit steep for anything repro. I think if it were me, I would rather be a "little off" on the time frame with an original, early, high pressure liner than be "off a little" with a fake Hawley. Sometimes this hobby comes down to how deep your pockets are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberThe5thESB Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted December 6, 2018 No kidding, I've managed to make it by somehow, a lot of patience and hunting. I've never played more than $100 for any piece of US headgear, including liners. And I own 17 helmets! But to me an original Hawley is worth it, as I'd rather get one now than later, when they really are too expensive. Sent from my SM-J327V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Hazard Posted December 6, 2018 Share #7 Posted December 6, 2018 High and low pressure liners with Rayon webbing would be correct for North Africa Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Hazard Posted December 6, 2018 Share #8 Posted December 6, 2018 High pressure early Westinghouse with fixed chinstrap and Rayon webbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberThe5thESB Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share #9 Posted December 6, 2018 Alrighty, thank you! Would those high pressures with the rayon be more common than Hawleys? I dont think I've ever seen the rayon high pressures before, for sale anyway. Sent from my SM-J327V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaptonIsGod Posted December 9, 2018 Share #10 Posted December 9, 2018 I own one of those repro Hawleys, they were all made for The Pacific. The attention to detail and historical accuracy for everything except making the shell itself out of cardboard/paper is pretty crazy. The shell it came with is a fixed bail, although Im still completely unsure if its an actual steel pot or a cast of one. Its hard to tell with the cover on, and I dont want to take it off. Its also marked Stone A inside the shell. For some reason my iPhone browser does not like apostrophes on this specific site, but they should have been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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