P-59A Posted November 19, 2018 Share #1 Posted November 19, 2018 What do the numbers taped on this 1964 transitional M-1C liner mean. What do the chalk marks mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share #2 Posted November 19, 2018 Any idea what this MM taped to the rear of the helmet stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted November 19, 2018 Any idea of the time frame for a pot painted in a dark green with out any texture would be? Has anyone come across a name taped into a helmet like this? Note the tape is the same green as the lid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted November 19, 2018 Share #4 Posted November 19, 2018 Would say his number in jump school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted November 19, 2018 Share #5 Posted November 19, 2018 Looks like a jump school helmet, 223 is his "roster number" I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted November 19, 2018 Can the numbers be used to track this guy down or is that a bridge to far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted November 19, 2018 Share #7 Posted November 19, 2018 No, those numbers were reassigned with every new class/new roster that came through I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted November 19, 2018 During the Vietnam war era, who went to jump school at Ft. Benning? Would someone who was a cook or mechanic be jump qualified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhscott Posted November 19, 2018 Share #9 Posted November 19, 2018 There is no MOS requirement to attend Airborne School. Anyone being assigned to a Airborne div would have been required to attend, plus many volunteered to get the wings and the promotion points they offer. The school also offers this training to honor and distinguished BCT and MOS school grads at Benning.....something to strive for....as well as helps fill the available school seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 19, 2018 Share #10 Posted November 19, 2018 I went through Jump school in 1977, went onto the 82nd. The number I wore in jump school at Benning ( it was black stenciled) was " C33". I will recheck my number in my graduation book. All our gear was Vietnam era issue. The chalk number I assume , if this is a training liner, would be his jumps -3. Our last week was jump week, we had to make 5 jumps to get our wings. While in Jump school we used an issued helmet which was turned in after graduation, it had no camo cloth on them, and the trainee number was stenciled on the pot, not the liner, so I am puzzled as to a number in tape, on the liner. Any markings on the steel pot? I will think about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted November 19, 2018 Share #11 Posted November 19, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 19, 2018 Share #12 Posted November 19, 2018 In historical interest, I checked my Benning Jump book...it was 1978, I was not C33, just a plain number. Interesting the helmet numbers, " W" number was woman, N number was National Guard ?, "A" number Air Force ?, seems like yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #13 Posted November 20, 2018 More, I wonder where everyone is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #14 Posted November 20, 2018 Another snippet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #15 Posted November 20, 2018 !!jumpschool4.jpg !!jumpschool1.jpg Doyler, Who was number "748"? My yearbook stated Benning Jump school could train 750 jumpers at one time....I would have hated to be number 748 in the chow line....joking, although we marched to chow and the mess hall, I do not remember lining up in any numerical order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USARV72 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #16 Posted November 20, 2018 Another incentive was/ is jump pay. When on pistol team at Ft Bragg in 73, a jump qualified shooter was sick and could not make his jump. His buds tried to get me to wear his shirt and jump. Told them the standard saying about “ what falls from the sky”. LOL No offense to Airborne guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #17 Posted November 20, 2018 I also remember we had three or four woman, all but one washed out, this one made it to jump week, I can't remember if she completed all 5 jumps. Also, correction, an "A" number on the helmet was an O1, officer, according to the name and rank list in my class book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-59A Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted November 20, 2018 I posted this helmet before. It has a cover with graffiti that indicate he was 1st Air Cav. in Vietnam 1966 to at least 67 and maybe 68. I know the first group sent to Vietnam was put together and sent post haste. I think this helmet reflects that. The lid and cover were sealed to the liner for a very long time. This is what I found when I pulled them apart. Go to my post on this M-1C for the rest of the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted November 20, 2018 Share #19 Posted November 20, 2018 U.S. Army Pvt. 1st Class Gary M. Rose during U.S. Army Jump School at Fort Benning, Ga., September 1967. Photo courtesy of Gary M. Rose. Rose was awarded the Medal of Honor October 2017 for actions during Operation Tail Wind serving as a 5th SFG Medic with an Exploitation Force. https://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/rose/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted November 20, 2018 Share #20 Posted November 20, 2018 Doyler, Who was number "748"? My yearbook stated Benning Jump school could train 750 jumpers at one time.... I would have hated to be number 748 in the chow line....joking, although we marched to chow and the mess hall, I do not remember lining up in any numerical order. Stephen Perry is the name.Photo was from Ft.Benning early 1966 graduation from Jump School.He wrote the book Bright Light and served with SF/SOG in Vietnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted November 20, 2018 Share #21 Posted November 20, 2018 917, I was interested to see your yearbook date as I believe I graduated in aug 78. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #22 Posted November 20, 2018 917, I was interested to see your yearbook date as I believe I graduated in aug 78. Cool. A few years ago I took my boy to Benning on a weekend, walked the towers, and noticed some buildings gone....I went to the nearest building and stated I was here in 78 and things look different. The Sargent took me outside and asked what building I was in ,I replied my number was C 62, he said "the Charley company building is slated to be torn down in a few months, Alpha and Bravo barracks have already been leveled for the new barracks". That said, you need to make a trip back some day, the young soldiers treated me like a legend, I was very impressed with their discipline, respect, and courtesy shown to me and my boy...yeah , I know, what is a 59 year old ex-paratrooper doing with an 11 year old? Airborne all the Way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #23 Posted November 20, 2018 I posted this helmet before. It has a cover with graffiti that indicate he was 1st Air Cav. in Vietnam 1966 to at least 67 and maybe 68. I know the first group sent to Vietnam was put together and sent post haste. I think this helmet reflects that. The lid and cover were sealed to the liner for a very long time. This is what I found when I pulled them apart. Go to my post on this M-1C for the rest of the pics.Given that info, I believe your liner helmet is not a jump school helmet, but obviously his Vietnam in theatre helmet...taped "223, three chalk marks", markings only the owner would understand. Three kills with the new 223 black rifle? Three in theatre jumps? ...trying to figure out what a late 60's 18/19 year old kid was thinking will drive you crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakkasan187 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #24 Posted November 20, 2018 The roster number was also used at Air Assault School. Had to have your roster number painted on your steel helmet after 0 day for day 1 of training. Roster number 241 was my number, ironically that was the same roster number I had during basic training at Fort Benning, GA in infantry school too. I thought the number would stick with me through my career but it was just a coincidence. Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted November 20, 2018 Share #25 Posted November 20, 2018 The roster number was also used at Air Assault School. Had to have your roster number painted on your steel helmet after 0 day for day 1 of training. Roster number 241 was my number, ironically that was the same roster number I had during basic training at Fort Benning, GA in infantry school too. I thought the number would stick with me through my career but it was just a coincidence. Leigh Starting to make some sense, did our Air Assault boys also use jump helmets? I have no idea. Few Vietnam paratroop jumps are recorded, however, helicopter Air Assault operations were every day common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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