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#1 Thor996

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Posted 13 November 2018 - 05:58 PM

1863-1893 New York Monument Dedication medal. Why, when or who re ribboned the medal I do not know. If anyone can shed some light on the re ribbon and the clasp, I'd appreciate it. 

 

 

 

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#2 Kevin Beyer

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Posted 14 November 2018 - 09:25 PM

My guess is that this piece is a marriage of a pendant without a ribbon and a ribbon without a pendant.  It is weren't for the metal for the top and bottom being different, I might not have known it didn't originate like this.

 

Can you provide a closer view of the suspension bar?



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Posted 14 November 2018 - 10:09 PM

sure which part?



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Posted 15 November 2018 - 06:23 AM

here's a shot of the bar [is this the suspension bar?]

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Posted 15 November 2018 - 03:39 PM

Sorry for not being more clear.  The bar with the stylized letters is what I would like to see in more detail.  The first photos you supplied were good.  I just could not zoom in enough to positively make out what letters were on it.



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Posted 15 November 2018 - 07:03 PM

How's this? this is sewn so I can't get a good shot of the back...

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Posted 15 November 2018 - 07:20 PM

I think this OES is order of eastern star monogram...so masonic ribbon on Gettysburg monument medal? OES colors match the ribbon colors too. So this would be a marriage of a Gettysburg monument medal and a masonic lodge ribbon and badge if I am correct. 

 

 

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Posted 15 November 2018 - 08:32 PM

I agree with that assessment.  While it looks nice to the unknowing bystander, to someone who prefers items in their original condition, I would break apart the marriage and treat them as separate pieces.



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Posted 15 November 2018 - 08:35 PM

I agree with that assessment.  While it looks nice to the unknowing bystander, to someone who prefers items in their original condition, I would break apart the marriage and treat them as separate pieces.

 

I was told by someone who has a Gettysburg medals page that this may most likely have been a veteran who was also an OES member. I prefer to leave things as I find them and let the next person break them apart. But thanks for your help. 

 

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 12:57 PM

I agree with that assessment.  While it looks nice to the unknowing bystander, to someone who prefers items in their original condition, I would break apart the marriage and treat them as separate pieces.

 

but if asked, I'd say that its NOT original veteran piece but a marriage of two parts with no real connection to a vet.. and I'd value it more for the medal without the drape on it.... no deceit on my part ever as to any association ... 




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