Having a hard time trying to identify this piece of field gear. Any suggestions.
WWI Khaki Pouch?
Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:24 PM
Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:26 PM
i dont recall the exact name for it, but it was designed to be hooked to the 1910 haversack underneath the meatcan pouch where the entrenching tool would otherwise be hooked. I believe it was carried by a sgt and contained various spare parts...possibly rifle parts.
Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:28 PM
Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:39 PM
Thank you for all your input. The date and manufacture stamp is faded to the point where as you can not read it. I will keep looking at wwi and post wwi photos to see if I can find it being used.
Posted 08 November 2018 - 10:04 PM
Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:07 AM
Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:01 PM
One of the few WW I era periodicals in which the 1916 Pouch for Small Articles is listed is the May 1918 dated " Equipment Manuals for Service in Europe: Infantry Regiment", published by GHQ, AEF.
On page 40, five lines up from the bottom of the page, under "Ordnance Equipment", the manual stated that each infantry regiment was to have a total of 453 Pouches for Small Articles. The pouches distributed as follows:
31 for each of the twelve rifle companies (372 total) - 39 for HQ company - 20 for supply company - 22 for the MG company - and 0 for the medical detachment
Edited by world war I nerd, 09 November 2018 - 02:04 PM.
Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:38 PM
Posted 09 November 2018 - 03:58 PM
I agree, not very many for an entire regiment. They were mostly issued to section and squad leaders.
That's why they are sometimes referred to as a "Squad Leaders' Pouch".
To date, I've only seen four WW I era photos of the pouch in use. Two by members of the AEF - one hung from a belt, the other on the haversack … one worn sort of like a purse hanging from a bely by a female Red Cross volunteer, and the last one worn by an African American soldier in a medical unit in a photo that appears to have been taken along the Mexican border either in 1916 or 1917. I'll resize and edit the Mexican border photo and post it here later.
Edited by world war I nerd, 09 November 2018 - 04:03 PM.
Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:26 PM
Here's the overall shot of African American soldiers from a medical outfit loading a truck down in El Paso, Texas circa 1916-1917.
Note the eagle snap medical belts and canteen covers, hand axes, blanket rolls and early haversacks.
It's difficult to see the 1916 Pouch for Small Articles, but it is suspended from the rear of the medical belt worn by the NCO (note the sidearm with pistol lanyard) with his arm raised up supporting the right-front of the crate being loaded (or unloaded) from the truck.
If you look closely at the back of the NCO's belt, you can make out the pouch's web suspension strap centered between the two visible pockets of his medical belt.
You can also see the U.S. stencil on the front of the strap and the right-hand lift-the-dot snap fastener. The left-hand snap fastener is hidden behind the bottom of the blanket roll worn by the man to his immediate left.
Edited by world war I nerd, 09 November 2018 - 04:30 PM.
Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:27 PM
Here's a closer view of the NCO and what I'm pretty sure is the Pouch for Small Articles.
I'm assuming that he's an NCO because he is the only one who's wearing a sidearm.
Edited by world war I nerd, 09 November 2018 - 04:31 PM.
Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:28 PM
An even closer view of the hard to see pouch … Note the suspension strap, the U.S. stencil and the lift-the-dot fastener.
Edited by world war I nerd, 09 November 2018 - 04:29 PM.
Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:29 PM
Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:50 PM
just as an aside, I would identify the unit stencil as being for the 19th Inf regiment. It was part of the 18th Div in WW1 and never went overseas.........but in 1921 when Fed troops were sent in to put down the coal miners strike in Logan,West Virginia this regiment was one of those involved and participated in what was called the battle of Blair Mountain.
Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:19 PM
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