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Please help ID. IS THIS A HYBRID M1902/1911?


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#1 Vneal487

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 10:55 AM

I really need help with this one.

I recently purchased this M1902/M1911??? US Army Service Coat. I bought it because I noticed that this piece has peaked cuffs, rimless blackened bronze buttons and a SPAN AM War Spanish Campaign Service ribbon.

The only thing that is throwing me off is that this Service Coat is that this has a standing collar. Its not a standing flapped collar. Plus at the left cuff is 3 silver chevrons.

This is truly an odd piece. I know that M1911 Officers service Coats have a yellow or black ribbon at the cuff. I would think that this isnt an officers tunic because of the discs.

Idk, if someone could help me, I would be great full.

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#2 Vneal487

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:00 AM

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:01 AM

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:01 AM

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:07 AM

Tags or label????Looks nice except for moth bites.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:07 AM

I tried to add better, clearer pictures. This Service Coat does have a lining. Maybe this is an officers service coat of the M1902 from what after the addition of the prototype disks in 1908. Just trying to trouble shoot. I have never seen a US Army service coat with peaked cuffs after the M1911 and other than the dress blue uniform for enlisted men, I haven’t seen a standing collar without a flap before 1911.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:09 AM

Ty. Yes some moth had a field day. Thank God it’s not the worst that I have ever seen. Lol.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:23 AM

USRV72 Thank you for your reply.
Unfortunately, there isnt any tags or labels. I checked the inside left and right sleeve to see if there was an armory stamp. Unfortunately there isnt a birthday. That would have made things a little easier.
I will post some pictures of the inside of the coat. Maybe that will help.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:24 AM

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:24 AM

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:25 AM

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:25 AM

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 06:03 PM

Mr Gil Sanow, if you would please take a look at this piece. I ran across a thread of yours where there is a M-1911 Spec 1160 that you have listed as a transitional piece. Your M-1911 Spec 1160 has a standing collar, rimless buttons, and peaked cuffs just like mine. Plus yours had signs of service chevrons. Mine are silver and still in place. Plus mine has the Span Am War Spanish Campaign Ribbon. Unfortunately, there arent any markings on the inside of this M-1911 Spec 1160. The collar disks are US & Quartermaster Corps.

http://www.usmilitar...s-service-coat/

So, is this a true transition piece between the M1902/M1911?

I would greatly appreciate your input.

Edited by Vneal487, 11 October 2018 - 06:07 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 07:54 PM

I really need help with this one.

I recently purchased this M1902/M1912?? US Army Service Coat. I bought it because I noticed that this piece has peaked cuffs, rimless blackened bronze buttons and a SPAN AM War Spanish Campaign Service ribbon.

The only thing that is throwing me off is that this Service Coat is that this has a standing collar. Its not a standing flapped collar. Plus at the left cuff is 3 silver chevrons.

This is truly an odd piece. I know that M1912?Officers service Coats have a yellow or black ribbon at the cuff. I would think that this isnt an officers tunic because of the discs.

Idk, if someone could help me, I would be great full.

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