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#1 shrapneldude

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:06 PM

Been trying to figure this out -- clearly mine is missing the visor / sheild but isn't this what I've got here?
Cork finish, leather sweat flaps, and khaki web chinstrap?

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#2 shrapneldude

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:13 PM

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#3 Bob Hudson

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:15 PM

That's the one designed for combat photographers.

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We have more info and photos at http://www.usmilitar...showtopic=27627 - there was also a similar one produced in WWI and yours actually may be one of those.

#4 shrapneldude

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:16 PM

That's the one designed for combat photographers.

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We have more info and photos at http://www.usmilitar...showtopic=27627 - there was also a similar one produced in WWI and yours actually may be one of those.

I have to disagree there, sorry --- the angles are really sharp on that camera one...this to me anyhow looks a lot more like the Number 8 -- it's more rounded under the visor and has the same suspension / liner.

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:27 PM

Yes, it's the Model 8. The photographer helmet has a different liner set up. Too bad it's missing the visor but still very cool!

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:35 PM

Anyone happen to know where one might get a visor / face guard?

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:43 PM

Anyone happen to know where one might get a visor / face guard?


it's an extremely rare helmet, the visor would be impossible to replace, unless you could get a custom made repro

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#8 just-a-good-ole-boy

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 07:13 PM

Very nice find! I think also , you would never be able to find an original replacement face shield for it. I have a model 8 as well ans as a matter of fact, it looks just like the one BOLO posted and has had the exterior paint stripped off. If I am not mistaken, Ford motorco. only made about 500 of these. Check on the underside of the chinstrap buckle and see if it has a 1918 patent date as mine does. http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 07:18 PM

Very nice find! I think also , you would never be able to find an original replacement face shield for it. I have a model 8 as well ans as a matter of fact, it looks just like the one BOLO posted and has had the exterior paint stripped off. If I am not mistaken, Ford motorco. only made about 500 of these. Check on the underside of the chinstrap buckle and see if it has a 1918 patent date as mine does. http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif


It says something on there -- can't quite make it out.

Missing the visor takes the value down on this guy probably, eh?

This one does still have teh original finish...cork I think not smooth.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:11 PM

I think they removed the visor because they probably found it was more practical without the visor, they could fire a rifle better without the visor, maybe it never had a visor on it? it doesnt appear like it had one by the finish wear

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:31 PM

I think they removed the visor because they probably found it was more practical without the visor, they could fire a rifle better without the visor, maybe it never had a visor on it? it doesnt appear like it had one by the finish wear


Interesting...
Do you think this one may have been field tested specifically without the visor? I was just thinking the thing had gone missing over the years, but you're right -- if there were a visor there, moving up and down at any time would've left some evidence of that at least at the pivot points there.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:58 PM

yes I think it's possible this helmet was field tested "as is" without a face shield

the face shield would only be useful if used by a machine gunner in a fixed position behind cover, not very useful for a regualr infantry soldier.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 07:27 AM

Some shots of a Model 8 Gladiator with shield

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