usaaf93 Posted July 27, 2018 Share #1 Posted July 27, 2018 Hello Can you identify the markings please ? Thanks Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomorgan Posted July 27, 2018 Share #2 Posted July 27, 2018 Possible this has been reused by the scouts or some one like that and marked for their use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaaf93 Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted July 27, 2018 Maybe. It comes from western Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted July 28, 2018 Share #4 Posted July 28, 2018 The marking on the right reminds me of the layout of some airfields. Airfield Engineer detachment, perhaps? The crate may have been repurposed at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaaf93 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted July 28, 2018 You are right the second insignia looks like the middle of the usaaf engineer patch but upside down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin Posted July 29, 2018 Share #6 Posted July 29, 2018 In my first reaction in seeing the crate the markings on the far left are POM markings. Their were ordnance circulars describing markings for shipping overseas, part of this system involves shapes and colors in specific configurations. Being found in Europe this would be consistent to the markings we see here, would be a rare find State side since these markings were only applied at ports for overseas shipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 29, 2018 Share #7 Posted July 29, 2018 The blue stripe on the crate designates " training". A crate full of inert M1 anti-tank training mines if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted July 29, 2018 Share #8 Posted July 29, 2018 ....a picture of the front latch ( one or two) and the inside will determine date of crate manufacture. They were commonly reused, and the dates ( lot numbers, etc) painted over with brown or grey paint and remarked....5 M1 anti tank mines to a crate...looks like late or post war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixbayonets! Posted July 30, 2018 Share #9 Posted July 30, 2018 I have seen a musette bag posted on the forum with the same red spade and POM markings that were for a 9th AAF unit. I also have a grouping to an AAF Officer who served with the IX Air Defense Command of the 9th AAF, his footlocker is marked with a black spade. Hope this helps. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixbayonets! Posted July 30, 2018 Share #10 Posted July 30, 2018 Here is the link to the musette bag, red spade is for an engineer unit. http://www.usmilitar...s/#entry2411728 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaaf93 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted July 30, 2018 Hello Thanks for your help. Here are the pictures from the seller. Hope it helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted July 30, 2018 Share #12 Posted July 30, 2018 Here is the link to the musette bag, red spade is for an engineer unit. http://www.usmilitar...s/#entry2411728 There's some good info and links there - thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted July 31, 2018 Share #13 Posted July 31, 2018 I would plant some ferns in it and put it in my secret garden. owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted July 31, 2018 Share #14 Posted July 31, 2018 Could this helmet with a red spade painted on the rear have anything to do with this thread. Thanks. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixbayonets! Posted August 1, 2018 Share #15 Posted August 1, 2018 Ronnie, It could possibly be associated with the 9th AAF but I am not sure if red spades were used by other units as well. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaaf93 Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share #16 Posted August 8, 2018 Hello It totally think it is associated withe the 9th engineer command. Found this online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
917601 Posted August 8, 2018 Share #17 Posted August 8, 2018 Hello It totally think it is associated withe the 9th engineer command. Found this online Excellent, amazing detective work. Where did you find the colored, vintage map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted August 9, 2018 Share #18 Posted August 9, 2018 As noted above, these aviation engineers built airfields for the European theater: http://www.ixengineercommand.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaaf93 Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share #19 Posted August 9, 2018 Thanks for posting the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted August 11, 2018 Share #20 Posted August 11, 2018 Ronnie, It could possibly be associated with the 9th AAF but I am not sure if red spades were used by other units as well. Rob Thank you Rob.Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaaf93 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share #21 Posted January 20, 2019 Hello Just got confirmation. This bag sold on ebay France a couple of days ago (I missed it). After doing some research I have confirmation it is connected to the 9th Engineer Command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted January 20, 2019 Share #22 Posted January 20, 2019 Thank you for the additional information. It's interesting how basic information about what this unit was and what it accomplished is relatively unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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