27Division18 Posted July 8, 2018 Share #1 Posted July 8, 2018 Can anyone help me with this uniform, ID rank etc? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted July 8, 2018 Share #2 Posted July 8, 2018 Captain US Public Health Service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Division18 Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted July 8, 2018 Does it have any connection to the US Navy (the anchor is under the caduceus)? Captain US Public Health Service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted July 8, 2018 Share #4 Posted July 8, 2018 I don't know. Use the "Google" . They wear Navy style uniforms, have their own medals, can wear previous service medals/ribbons on their uniforms. I think they are their own organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Division18 Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted July 8, 2018 Ah, yes, I think it is the commissioned corps of the US Public Health Service. They were mobilized by the federal government during WW2. Thanks I don't know. Use the "Google" . They wear Navy style uniforms, have their own medals, can wear previous service medals/ribbons on their uniforms. I think they are their own organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted July 9, 2018 Share #6 Posted July 9, 2018 They are not connected to the Navy other than Naval style uniforms, (which they still wear today). The Surgeon General of the US wears an Admirals style uniform for public appearances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastersMate Posted July 9, 2018 Share #7 Posted July 9, 2018 The naval connection of the Public Health Service goes way back to its founding in the very early 1800s. Originally called the U.S. Marine Hospital Service. Part of its early duty was providing medical care for the new nations merchant marine. The early pay for crewmembers on the Revenue Cutters and merchant ships included a very small deduction to pay for the service.. A naval connection from the start.. Many old timers will recall that most major port cities had a 'Marine Hospital'. Brighton Marine Hospital in Boston for example.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted July 9, 2018 Share #8 Posted July 9, 2018 The naval connection of the Public Health Service goes way back to its founding in the very early 1800s. Originally called the U.S. Marine Hospital Service. Part of its early duty was providing medical care for the new nations merchant marine. The early pay for crewmembers on the Revenue Cutters and merchant ships included a very small deduction to pay for the service.. A naval connection from the start.. Many old timers will recall that most major port cities had a 'Marine Hospital'. Brighton Marine Hospital in Boston for example.. . I agree, Maritime, but not a part or branch of the Navy. Part of their job was also going health inspections on merchant ships entering US Ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastersMate Posted July 9, 2018 Share #9 Posted July 9, 2018 Its an old quirk I have about terminology. Organizations like the old Revenue Cutter Service, pre 1941 Coast Guard or Marine Hospital service were organized with a Naval type of system, ranks, ratings and a discipline system modeled along the lines of the Navy. During WW 1 even the Coast and Geodetic Survey ( pre NOAA) was organized as a uniformed naval type of service. I think that is the time frame for the start of the current 7 uniformed US services. Five military and 2 uniformed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin B. Posted July 10, 2018 Share #10 Posted July 10, 2018 Though the USPHS did not go "full navy" for uniforms until the WW2 period. Earlier, they had more of a hybrid, with navy-type officer stripes on dress uniforms, and army-type insignia on blue, white, khaki and OD service uniforms. Even in WW2 USPHS officers in some assignments wore pinks and greens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted July 10, 2018 Share #11 Posted July 10, 2018 Didnt the ATS, (Army Transportation Service) wear Naval Officer style uniforms? There are a bunch of organizations that wore Naval style uniforms. If you dont know what youre looking at, You wont be able to tell the difference. Navy uniforms are actually pretty easy. Same buttons and cap badge fore all officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastersMate Posted July 10, 2018 Share #12 Posted July 10, 2018 PHS officers assigned to the Coast Guard wore the double breasted naval style blues starting in the early/mid 1920s. In the 1901 period a couple of PHS doctors were assigned full time as surgeons to the Revenue Cutters. They wore the 'choker' collar Naval style blues with PHS collar insignia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted July 10, 2018 Share #13 Posted July 10, 2018 But, in the end, they were NOT US Navy. A separate organization, that wore Naval style uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastersMate Posted July 10, 2018 Share #14 Posted July 10, 2018 Correct.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin B. Posted July 10, 2018 Share #15 Posted July 10, 2018 Didnt the ATS, (Army Transportation Service) wear Naval Officer style uniforms? There are a bunch of organizations that wore Naval style uniforms. If you dont know what youre looking at, You wont be able to tell the difference. Navy uniforms are actually pretty easy. Same buttons and cap badge fore all officers. True. Naval/governmental and merchant maritime organizations have cross-pollinated each other's uniforms pretty much since day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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