The Rooster Posted June 25, 2018 Share #1 Posted June 25, 2018 Greetings all. I have a pic of a Vanguard marked wing with a hallmark I have never seen before. The pics are somewhat small and not a very good shot of the back. But they are different in style and Marking to the two Vanguard wings I own. The owner says they are also marked sterling. Cant really see it but ...... What says the forum members? What era are these from? Has anyone seen or does anyone own a pair like these? I will post photos of one of the Vanguard NY wings in my collection for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share #2 Posted June 25, 2018 After enlarging and sharpening I do see the sterling mark on the right side under the pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted June 25, 2018 Typical ww2 Vanguard wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted June 25, 2018 Backside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted June 25, 2018 To my eye these wings are very differnt . Not just the markings? Verdict Forum???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted June 25, 2018 Share #6 Posted June 25, 2018 Here is a good thread about Vanguard wings: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/259737-vanguard-wwii-navigator-wing/?hl=%2Bvanguard+%2Bwwii From post#10 (by B17-John): "Thanks for the reference Patrick, it is actually Gemsco that picked up the Amico wing dies. I have a few Amico marked wings that are "over-stamped" Gemsco. As for Vanguard, I corresponded with the company about six years ago. Apparently Vanguard only made Navy and Marine insignia from their beginnings till after WWIl. I was also told that they used two different vendors for USN wing badges during WWII. It was not till after WWll that they made USAF and Army insignia and badges. This was all based recollections so there may be some inaccuracy. As for the hallmarks, the Vanguard eagle with the large V was trademarked in 1956 and used till it was replaced by the current registered trademark in 1984. John" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted June 25, 2018 Share #7 Posted June 25, 2018 The post WWII Air Force wings all use block lettering (IIRC). I am of the opinion that these USN aviator wings are likely post-WWII (or even after KW). Whilst the USN aviator wings with the script hallmark is probably WWII-KW vintage. I suspect that with all the old stock floating around, there was probably a fair amount of overlap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted June 26, 2018 Thank you for the info Patrick ! If I'm not wrong, I think they do resemble the AMICO pattern in the Berries and shape of the wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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