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#1 TheMariner

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 04:08 PM

I dont see anything I dislike about the medal engraving looks correct and from the period script engraving was used! Was anyone able to figure out what the name on it said and determine any info on the veteran himself? Would this medal have been awarded to a KIA who was determined dead or would this been a WIA award post war ? Interested what people think about it! 

 

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#2 Pete-o MSU

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 04:23 PM

Looks good to me. Edward Raney? 46-47 issue I believe...could have been a KIA

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 04:26 PM

It's Edward J. Raney I think? 



#4 tdogchristy90

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 04:30 PM

It's Edward J. Raney I think? 


Ditto

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 04:36 PM

This is typically the style awarded to KIA, but I recently picked one up to a WIA, so I know they aren't all posthumous.

I couldn't figure out who this guy was when I saw it posted...



#6 TheMariner

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 04:48 PM

 I have been hunting around myself and can't find anything on him! The price tells me most bidders ran into the same issue! Does anyone see a KIA by that name on the records ?



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Posted 05 June 2018 - 06:18 PM

I have seen several WIAs engraved like this, so that is very likely what he was.



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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:51 AM

What is that below his last name, a decoration of some kind?



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Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:03 AM

What is that below his last name, a decoration of some kind?

 

Yes, a flourish. Most often what's seen is a winged prop for the AAF, as the majority of these medals were awarded to AAF crewmen who were MIA during the war but finally had their status changed to KIA in 1947.



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 04:38 AM

With the lack of info on the man, my guess is that this is a late award to a World War One veteran.



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:38 AM

I have one of these to an ex POW. Has the 1947 dated certificate with it too.

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 07:29 AM

Another example awarded to a World War One Vet. in 1947.

 

 

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 01:22 PM

Another example awarded to a World War One Vet. in 1947.

 

 

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Hmm does seem very similar to this one, maybe it is a WW1 example that is what I am leaning towards to myself after all of the info provided by members! 



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Posted 12 June 2018 - 04:48 AM

Hmm does seem very similar to this one, maybe it is a WW1 example that is what I am leaning towards to myself after all of the info provided by members! 

 

Excluding the KIA possibility is the easiest....determining if it is a WW I or WW II WIA harder.  The odds are if it is not a KIA, it is a WW II WIA, but it could be WW I too.  This is more about the engraving orders that landed on whoever did this style in this time frame.  The vast majority are going to be WW II related, but a percentage would have been WW I as well...but I bet that is a relatively small one.

 

You are going to have to research it both ways and see where it leads you.  Hopefully, you don't find too many guys with this name, which can add to the difficulty.  



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Posted 12 June 2018 - 05:01 AM

Another possibility is we are not seeing the name correctly or there was a spelling error..."Rainey" is the more common spelling, and with this engraving style one could see how it would be easier for a mistake to pass through.



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Posted 12 June 2018 - 02:50 PM

To me, that middle letter in the last name is definitely not a "n".   It is either a "u" or a "v", but most looks like a "u".   Rauey.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:52 AM

To me, that middle letter in the last name is definitely not a "n".   It is either a "u" or a "v", but most looks like a "u".   Rauey.

 

With just a very quick look, Ravey gets more hits as a last name. 



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:19 AM

I believe the last name is Raney with an "N". Here is one from my collection. His first name was Gaetano, and I believe the Ns are very close if not identical. BTW, these script engraved PHs are often found paired w/ script engraved BSMs. Many of the first so-called "CIB/CMB conversion" BSM reissue sets were done in script engraving...

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:58 AM

When the original PH was listed on eBay, I spent a couple hours trying every variation I could think of for the guy's last name...Raney, Roney, Runey, Ravey...the list goes on. I couldn't find a match. I like uncommon awards (I would have been beside myself it this turned out to be a late 1945 or 1946/47 combat award for fighting aganst Werwolves or something like that...) but I couldn't find anything. Too bad, really. 

 

Not saying I have all the access to everything in the world, but I don't have a clue who the guy could be. 

 

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:00 AM

Heres an Edward J. Raney in a CT Military Census, dated 1917. I also found a Confederate Civil War soldier by the same name in A Co., 29th BN of the Georgia Cavalry.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:57 AM

Heres an Edward J. Raney in a CT Military Census, dated 1917. I also found a Confederate Civil War soldier by the same name in A Co., 29th BN of the Georgia Cavalry.

Sorry about the image quality, but forum limits using the resizer, and this is the result.



It's obviously not this 50 year old non-veteran.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:31 AM

It's obviously not this 50 year old non-veteran.

 

And it wouldn't be from the Confederate guy either...so I think we can discount both of those. 

 

What an oddball!



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:46 PM

There is a good number of Edward Raneys from WWII, with no middle initial on their document. May never know.


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