ID a Unnamed Airborne? Ribbon rack

[Sweazy21]

Grabbed this off ebay today and thought id see if it’s possible it ID the vet. Although he only has one star and its for Korea. What brought it to my attention was the two bronze arrowheads and five purple hearts. Whoever he was, he definitely saw combat. The seller, who’s location is in Auburn New York, stated they came from at estate.

Anyways, I’ll let it speak for itself.

These were also in the same lot. But who knows for sure if they went together.

 

 

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[CNY Militaria]

I did some cursory research into it when I first saw it, but wasn't getting anywhere.

 

Also for what it's worth, I wouldn't put much stock into the "from an estate" part as my table helper sold this same person a medal/document group at a local show. I watched my table helper disclose that he had purchased it from a dealer at the SOS and a week later it was listed on his ebay account as "from an estate sale." I think that's a line he adds to all of his listings.

[Sweazy21]

Yeah, i ask seller if all came from same sale. As I thought, they said yes. Thats why i bid on it as a random lot of stuff.

[Jumpin Jack]

There are a few contradictions in this rack. (1) it has a DFC, but no Air Medal. (2) ETO with arrow head, but no star(s). Nice looking, but doesn't smell right.

[Blacksmith]

+1. Looks put-together to me.

 

There are a few contradictions in this rack. (1) it has a DFC, but no Air Medal. (2) ETO with arrow head, but no star(s). Nice looking, but doesn't smell right.

[Sweazy21]

There are a few contradictions in this rack.  (1) it has a DFC, but no Air Medal. (2) ETO with arrow head, but no star(s).  Nice looking, but doesn't smell right.  

1) is it not possible to receive a distinguished flying Cross without receiving a air medal?

2) ETO, stars are only awarded for certain battles correct? So is it not possible to participate in the landing at Normandy, and not end up in one of the battles that would qualify you for a star? He was wounded multiple times.

I’m not saying that he was at Normandy. i’m just using it as an example, but surly this combination can’t be impossible.

 

 

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[Sweazy21]

+1. Looks put-together to me.

 

 

If it was not a custom ribbon bar. I wouldn’t of bothered. But since everything sewn together I’m not that worried about it being put together. I mean for how much it would cost to have this made. It’s one hell of a gamble to not make it match somebody that’s easy to identify. I’m not saying that it isn’t put together, but the percentage I would give it is very low. Has a better chance of being legit in my opinion.

 

 

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[Blacksmith]

I dont know flyer stuff, but for #2, it is odd to see the Arrowhead Device without a corresponding campaign star. The initial Normandy assault landing, via amphibious or parachute / glider means, would have necessarily qualified the wearer to the campaign star for the Normandy Campaign.

 

 

1) is it not possible to receive a distinguished flying Cross without receiving a air medal?

2) ETO, stars are only awarded for certain battles correct? So is it not possible to participate in the landing at Normandy, and not end up in one of the battles that would qualify you for a star? He was wounded multiple times.

Im not saying that he was at Normandy. im just using it as an example, but surly this combination cant be impossible.

 

 

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[Teamski]

If it was not a custom ribbon bar. I wouldn’t of bothered. But since everything sewn together I’m not that worried about it being put together. I mean for how much it would cost to have this made. It’s one hell of a gamble to not make it match somebody that’s easy to identify. I’m not saying that it isn’t put together, but the percentage I would give it is very low. Has a better chance of being legit in my opinion.

 

 

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That is my feeling as well, but I do have a really, really nice custom anodized medal group that was put together for a display. A hell of a lot of money went into it, but I cannot say it is legit per say....... That said, custom groups have to be evaluated on their own merit vs a simple ribbon rack.

 

In this case, I would not put a lot of money on something like this that has no provenance. It is simply the sum of the parts unfortunately.

 

-Ski

[Bodes]

Sorry if it's a silly question, but what's pinned on the good conduct bar?.....Bodes

[joeclown]

It's a knot meaning a second award of the Good Conduct Medal

[Sweazy21]

It's a knot meaning a second award of the Good Conduct Medal

It appears silver, will confirm when it arrives. But that would make it a 6th award?

[Lee Ragan]

There are a few contradictions in this rack. (1) it has a DFC, but no Air Medal. (2) ETO with arrow head, but no star(s). Nice looking, but doesn't smell right.

It is very possible to get a DFC without any Air Medals. The two medals are not tied to each other. DFC's are often awarded to personnel connected with a crew involved in a record setting flight or some other flight of signifigance. DFC's are not awarded only for combat operations.