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#1 solcarlus

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:07 AM

Bonjour.

I would like to know the model and the era of this trousers mounted.

Merci. Sol.

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#2 solcarlus

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:08 AM

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 04:27 PM

Those breeches don't match any of the known Quartermaster specifications that I have seen. There may be other specifications that I'm not aware of.

 

If those were 1911 pattern breeches, they could have the reinforced seat. However, they would not have any rear pockets. In addition, 1911 breeches would also have zinc buttons as well as an adjustable half-belt at the rear waist.

 

If those were 1917 pattern breeches, they would not have a reinforced seat, as mounted breeches were abolished in 1917, as was the rear half-belt. 1917 breeches also featured zinc buttons, and unlike their 1911 counterpart, they did have two rear pockets.

 

My best guess is that maybe they were purchased from a source other than the Quartermaster Corps or they were tailor made.

 

The bright green color is unusual though ... For what it's worth, the AEF Salvage Service dyed salvaged Doughboy service coats and service breeches that were still wearable, but not suitable for reissue to the Doughboys a bright emerald green color. Those garments were then issued to German POWs. I doubt that this pair of breeches was ever worn by a German in AEF captivity, but who knows?



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Posted 05 May 2018 - 07:44 AM

Look underneath the back side of the coin pocket. There may be a name typed under their. Dig hard as it tucked up and behind. I was at a yard sale several years ago and I guy had a stack of these and claimed them to the Army. Some were some even leaning towards a bluish green hue, if I remember correctly. I passed on them, but as always..wish I hade picked them up  now. 



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Posted 05 May 2018 - 07:47 AM

BUT...could they be Boy Scout? that color is near to the shaded they used. And BSA logos on the inside?



#6 solcarlus

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Posted 05 May 2018 - 11:14 PM

Merci For your opinion

There is no label or mark. He was dyed.

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 03:01 PM

That article of clothing does not conform to any Q.M. specification.

 

It is civilian mfg., and  possibly part of a Boy Scouts of America uniform.



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Posted 13 May 2019 - 04:29 PM

Boy Scout.CMTC,CCC or even hunting pants from the post war era



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Posted 13 May 2019 - 05:52 PM

Not BSA, no logos on the pockets or waist band.

#10 solcarlus

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Posted 14 May 2019 - 11:15 AM

Bonjour.

If I understand correctly, it is a civil fabrication.

Not CCC.
Not BSA.
Not QMC.
CMTC?

Merci.

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Posted 14 May 2019 - 01:21 PM

Bonjour.

If I understand correctly, it is a civil fabrication.

Not CCC.
Not BSA.
Not QMC.
CMTC?

Merci.

 

 

Hard to say.

 

Could be just civilian hunting or work wear as well patterned/copied after the military.

 

A friend use to own a early Boy Scout leadres uniform.It was actually a WW1 era issue army jacket and pants made of the heavy cotton twill that had the military buttons removed and the BOY SCOUT buttons installed.Was it purchased this way as official or done by the original Scout leader?Never know but there are early images in catalogs that show theBoy Scout uniforms and how they followed the military design or possibly used surplus uniforms etc.

 

This was a recent find that came with a WW1 uniform.The jacket is a lighter material than the typical cloth used for the summer twill uniforms.It has a very light olive drab wool lining to it.Belted waitst and patch pockets.Open collar.

 

There are a set of pants and they are of the basic same material and even look to be similar or a match to those you posted.I suspect my  trousers go with the jacket and not the WW1 uniform.

 

Im not positive if its a para military uniform for a Civilian Military Training Camp or CCC or just a Civilian hunting suit.Im leaning toward hunting suit.

 

Heres the jacket.

 

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 11:08 PM

Merci Doyler.

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