Patchcollector Posted March 21, 2018 Share #1 Posted March 21, 2018 Hi all,Here is a Wing that I'm not sure about,maker ID wise.It is a thick,solid back piece with what looks like a raised "STERLING" mark on the rear shield.No other hallmarks apparent.After browsing the Wings on the "big three"(WW2Wings,Patricks site,and anaspides.net),I found what I believe to be a close match for this pattern on the WW2Wings.com site here: http://www.ww2wings.com/wings/usaaf/pilot/aecoaafpilotgidhagen.shtml Maybe this is an A.E Company variant,or a close pattern marketed by another Company? Any thoughts,opinions,info,etc.. is welcome and appreciated. Thanks! Sorry about the image quality.Sellers pic are all I have right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Costa Posted March 21, 2018 Share #7 Posted March 21, 2018 ill guess on the maker-- Amico?? but, it sure looks like a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kropotkin Posted March 21, 2018 Share #8 Posted March 21, 2018 The obverse looks very much like Josten to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted March 21, 2018 Share #9 Posted March 21, 2018 I think that the maker of this classic "Adams-style" wing is probably not determinable. They are relatively common (and handsome) wing that is characterized by a rather thick base and this kind of smooth back. I don't want to say "run of the mill" because they are nice wings, but you can see them all over the place it seems. I have no idea if they were made by one or multiple manufacturers, but I suspect they were probably make by more than one outfit considering how common they are out there. I have a few in my collection. Nice wing, but I wouldn't get to crazy with the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks Costa,Kropotkin,and Patrick for your input and info.I bought it because I initially thought it may be an Interwar piece.It looks quite grubby so I'll probably clean this one up as it looks like mostly grunge and little patina.I paid 55 for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kropotkin Posted March 22, 2018 Share #11 Posted March 22, 2018 Further to my above post, there was a discussion on Josten some while back, which included the same pattern wing as yours (post #35) here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/85523-josten-wings-question/page-2&do=findComment&comment=630180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks for the link,interesting thread!Post # 35 has one like mine.Guess they are known as "slick backs".I'm thinking that these may be Graduation Wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kropotkin Posted March 22, 2018 Share #13 Posted March 22, 2018 Yes, that would be my guess given the lack of maker mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted March 23, 2018 Share #14 Posted March 23, 2018 That isn't a bad price. These "slick wings" with the nice smooth back are frequently used for engravings. I just saw one on ebay yesterday but didn't note the auction. But here is a similar auction for a similar wing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW2-USAAF-STERLING-3-INCH-PILOT-WINGS-PB/123010306175?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50686%26meid%3Dfb012a50e17a410b8964bc3296c38071%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D332582937829%26itm%3D123010306175&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042 I don't think these wings are interwar. For a number of reasons, but they sure are nice. And while there is no reason that Josten couldn't have made them, I don't think there is a reason why they would have either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share #15 Posted March 23, 2018 Yes that one you linked to looks alot like mine.The more I looked at them,the more I thought against them being Interwar period made/used.As for where they came from,from previous posts I've learned that the Wing making/marketing system during the War was confusing at best. I can imagine that there was a lot of wheeling and dealing going on as companies scrambled to produce and sell Wings to new Pilots and Aircrews.We know some details,but the rest is like a jigsaw puzzle;when info turns up we can put another piece in place and add to our collective knowledge.I can't wait to get this Wing and when I do I'm going to clean it up a bit and take some decent photos and post them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted March 23, 2018 Share #16 Posted March 23, 2018 I love that type of wings. I think you will be really happy with them. It's kind of like the Bell wings. And amcraft wings. They are common but very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypilot6670 Posted April 28, 2018 Share #17 Posted April 28, 2018 Picked this up on E Bay. Could be a maker for the slick back wings or another manufacturer being sold by Smilo. I believe the wings are original to the box , the paper browning matches the wing profile nicely. The wing feathering and basic style do not seem to match Smilo wings. Patrick said in another post that he had a set of Meyer marked wings in a Smilo box thus another manufacture being sold by Smilo.I am thinking these are the same , another maker being sold by Smilo as a graduation wing. The AG reference AG 095 (9-30-41) LO seem to be something that the military would use on issued wings. Comments welcomed. Foot note I buy these slick back when I can as these are what my father brought home from WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted April 28, 2018 Very nice boxed Wing.Sounds like Smilo was a reseller,or distributer of many Wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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