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#1 Brig

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:15 AM

Can anyone identify this well-decorated Army officer? Appears to have a Silver Star, Bronze Star, LOM, and Air Medal...photo taken at the US Embassy in Ireland during the 1957 Marine Corps Ball.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:27 AM

He's a full colonel and an aide.  Find out what "big wig" attended the ball and then back track (i.e., who was his aide?)



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:33 AM

Unfortunately it's just a stray Army portrait in a USMC album of the ball. Probably pretty tough to track down a guest list. The rest of the photos are the Marine detail, and the ambassador



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:39 AM

Actually, the Defense Attache (an O6), who is the military advisor to the US Ambassador  also wears that aiguilette.  So, the US Army Colonel who served in that capacity at the US Embassy in Ireland in 1957 is probably your guy.  

 

I retract the aide theory, being that he is wearing General Staff branch insignia, rather than aide branch insignia.  


Edited by KurtA, 04 February 2018 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:16 AM

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Arthur Siegmar Hyman

 

In 1950, Art attended the Infantry Officer Advanced Course and then spent a year as a company commander with the 508th Airborne Regimental Combat Team. In May 1952, he was reassigned to Korea as an aide to the Commanding General, 40th Division.

 

In July 1954, Art was handpicked for assignment to the XVIII Airborne Corps to be a G-3 Plans Officer. He left Fort Bragg in June 1955 for the Presidio in San Francisco, California and his next assignment as aide to General Young, Commanding General, Sixth Army.

 

His decorations include the Legion of Merit (four awards), Silver Star, Bronze Star (three), Air Medal and Army Commendation Medal.

 

http://apps.westpoin.../Article/14265/



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:31 AM

I think Kurt A nailed it. The flag behind the Col. looks to be the Ambassador’s flag.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:55 AM

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Arthur Siegmar Hyman

 

In 1950, Art attended the Infantry Officer Advanced Course and then spent a year as a company commander with the 508th Airborne Regimental Combat Team. In May 1952, he was reassigned to Korea as an aide to the Commanding General, 40th Division.

 

In July 1954, Art was handpicked for assignment to the XVIII Airborne Corps to be a G-3 Plans Officer. He left Fort Bragg in June 1955 for the Presidio in San Francisco, California and his next assignment as aide to General Young, Commanding General, Sixth Army.

 

His decorations include the Legion of Merit (four awards), Silver Star, Bronze Star (three), Air Medal and Army Commendation Medal.

 

http://apps.westpoin.../Article/14265/

 

Based on his bio, he was promoted to LTC in 1958.  The officer pictured is a Full Colonel in 1957.  



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 02:51 PM

I think Kurt A nailed it. The flag behind the Col. looks to be the Ambassador’s flag.

No question the ambassador was there, it's an embassy detachment's Ball. Pretty sure this is the ambassador...

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:03 PM

The ambassador pictured is Scott McLeod May 9 1957-Mar 15 1961



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:47 PM

https://en.wikipedia...W._Scott_McLeod

 

Well he had an interesting history...



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 04:11 PM

That's an understatement!



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:54 PM



 

Based on his bio, he was promoted to LTC in 1958.  The officer pictured is a Full Colonel in 1957.  

I don't think it's him LT, for the reasons you mentioned, plus were seeing no CIB, or Jump Wings, now he may not of worn his jump wings on this occasion for whatever reason, but chances are he would of worn his CIB, maybe even as a Mini. Faces look different too I think. the one of Hyman even as a B Gen looks much younger or young-sh then the officer in the Mess Uniform.

 

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Here's his write up as of 1 January 1957 in the register, a Major AUS which would mean Temp.

 

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And as of 1 January 1958, still a Major, but now I believe, Perm.

 

But don't worry Brig, we may yet find him, The Game is Afoot.



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:10 PM

An interview with William H. Taft III, Ambassador to Ireland 1953-57 see page 10, could this Colonel be the Army attaché or a replacement under McLeod???

 

"Well as I was saying, one had a lot of pleasant, leisure time. There was one example, I had two military attachés. One Army, and one Air".


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 07:06 PM

What Hyman was proposed as a possible candidate for this is beyond me....

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:03 PM

What Hyman was proposed as a possible candidate for this is beyond me....

Well these things are always shots in the dark when dealing with unnamed officers from way back when. aznation, like all of us who get interested in these topics, fires one out there, no harm no foul, in many respects these shots if they miss are good because we can narrow things down and look elsewhere.

 

But these are toughies I admit, and this one is no exception :lol:


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 04:31 PM

Brig, would contacting the State Department in some capacity help? Like their Archives?



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Posted 05 February 2018 - 05:26 PM

Hmmm...a possibility



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Posted 05 February 2018 - 06:58 PM

Hmmm...a possibility

Yeah that's the one thing I can think of, it's really hard to track a man like this down, unless you get lucky with searches with keywords, like in this case, haven't gotten no hits other than the one I posted that mentions McLeod's predecessor Taft the III. It's possible that the State Department may have old embassy and consular staff rosters (If so, hopefully they list Military Attache people too) for the U.S. Embassy Republic of Ireland.

 

I'm also wondering now if the U.S. Army, like the U.S. Army Center for Military History has old rosters of their Attache/Military Mission people?

 

Maybe worth a shot there too.

 

https://www.google.c...1.0.ED8XDXMrrlg



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Posted 05 February 2018 - 08:35 PM

The name mentioned by Taft was “Buck Spinks”. Could be the name of the Army or Air Attache in 1957. And if Army, Spinks may have been earlier in ‘57.

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 07:05 AM



The name mentioned by Taft was “Buck Spinks”. Could be the name of the Army or Air Attache in 1957. And if Army, Spinks may have been earlier in ‘57.

Good eye. This might be a lead, a Colonel Leslie Spinks USA. No middle intial as we see.

 

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:18 AM

Pretty sure it is the same guy - Leslie Spinks was a (Bates) college coach and Reserve Captain called up in 1940, promoted to Major in 1942.  Haven't found what he did '42-'45.  In mid-1950 he was a Department Head at Fort Sill (Department of Observation).  I found an account by an officer who said, "After the school was finished I was assigned to the observation Depot. TAS, as Executive Officer to Col Buck Spinks, the Dept Head." 

 

Haven't found what he was doing through '53.

 

So Leslie Spinks = "Buck" Spinks = the Attache who worked at the Ireland Embassy under Taft.

 

Now the question is whether Spinks was still there in November or if this photo is of his replacement. 

 

It might help to learn where else Spinks served during WWII / Korea to see if he earned those decorations.  That also might answer the question.



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:14 PM

Hall of Valor has no valor awards for Leslie Spinks...so maybe his replacement



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:06 PM

The Times from Shreveport, Louisiana on March 8, 1957 · Page 35

Na 24-B. ATLANTA, March 7 W Third Army headquarters . today announced a 10-man court martial board to try Col. John C. ... Leslie Spinks, U.S. Army Military District, Alabama; Col. Albert J. ... He served throughout World War II until 1948 when opposition parties formed a coalition to wrest control .of the government.

 

Don't have an account, so not real sure just what is said about Spinks. Looks like he may have be sitting on a Courts Martial Board stateside in early 1957???




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